Bazz: "The point I was making is that the average Jo Blow, who mainly only reads web pages and email"

Although it isn't obvious, we are arguing here about cause and effect. You are assuming Jo Blow only reads web pages because there is nothing more that could conceivably interest him. You might be right, but ...

As you said, it takes a second or two for a web page to respond. At Uni, we were given a rule thumb for computer response speeds. Under 250 milli seconds; perceived as instantaneous. Under about 2 seconds: slowing down. Over 2 seconds: unusable for interactive purposes.

That means about the best application we can hope for over the internet is one that dumps a whole pile of information to a local computer where you can interact with it using the mouse clicks, key presses and whatever at a reasonable speed that won't drive the user nuts. Hell, throw in some tabs so you can download one thing while reading another. Sound familiar? Yes - its a the WWW. Anything requiring more interactivity than the WWW simply won't work on our current networks.

You say Jo Blow doesn't use anything other than the WWW because it doesn't interest him. I say how do you know, given right now it is impossible to build anything more sophisticated than the WWW with our current networks? Jo Blow hasn't had a chance to try anything else.

Phone calls over the internet are an obvious example. All you have to do is reliably send 10 K bits/sec with 300 milli seconds delay over one of our u-beaut 1M bits/sec ADSL links. 24 hours of yapping would cost you around 1G - a dammed sight less normal than telco charges. If you have a very good ISP that knows his stuff you can pull it off now, otherwise forget it. Why - see above. And voice isn't that demanding! Try doing any live video interaction is impossible.

look its about getting us into debt[so we can get lumped with compulsory global carbon tax]better things to spend 43 billion on try buying stuff before the real carbon price gets put on it[buy food]

been doing research re the tax, interesting discoveries are being revealed..like bying a potatoe, will have its carbon credit added for the cooking, pre paid[in its purchase price]

so they figure it will cost 15 carbon credits to cook it so the potatoe has that cost added to iots price [neat scam eh]you pay on the carbon credits via electricity and the potatoe

i heard it explained by dr winn parker, in googling his name found this interesting link
http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/waterpolution.shtml

but unable to find him saying it[it was on republic broadcasting network, john stadmillers show, its in the archive but it costs 1.33 cents [via pay pal to listen to the re broadcast]
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?cmd=archives
thus my search goes on

interesting search result's
http://organictobe.org/index.php/2007/07/20/uhhh-explain-that-carbon-credit-deal-again-please/
http://www.erb.umich.edu/Research/Student-Research/VoluntaryCarbonConfusionformatted-MLedit-2-22.pdf

http://www.qualitydigest.com/inside/quality-insider-article/treat-carbon-symptom-not-disease.html

but hey its a long search
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGklnszOdJlbkAEG6l87UF?p=carbon+credit+value+on+a+potatoe&fr=sfp&fr2=&iscqry=

and have no doudt its going to be the biggest scam[i understand even growing your own food will result in govt finning you [even animals need to be registered[$5 for a chicken[so selling your home grown chicken cost 5 bucks [before you factor in what you are selling the actual chicken for]

but hey get back to your tv...lol
govt is trying to screw us into the ground so the speculators can speculate the neo carbon credit con derivitive for their imf banker mates, but hey thats how they sold us on drug wars and bikie wars, and the global [cabal cooling

[oops global warming]warning and the y2k computers failing [and sars/birdflue, and mercury vacinations, and fluerided water [and tax on cigarettes, and tax on alco pops, and private pensions that stole your super...[its the same old elites sukking you dry..[but hey you love it right

lol
shoot the messenger