Fractelle,

DECENTRALISATION. What a magic word which I never thought I would hear again.

I do not know about other states but here, in NSW, the government shifted a lot of staff and set up offices in country towns and centres. Manufacturing and other busnesses were given incentives to relocate to country areas and country centres prospered. Because of this there came new housing, schools and hospitals, etc.

However within a short period state centralism became in vogue and economic rationalism became the in thing with politicians. Consequently places like Sydney, Wollongong and Newcastle grew like topsy until they are choking themselves to death with people and traffic and massive transport problems. Country centres went into decline badly.

Health services are a good example of this. District hospitals used to be run by local boards of GPs, busness people and so on. They now have vast regions called area health services administrated by so called professionals. The result being that beaurocracies have grown and local health services depleted. Where local girls once trained for nursing at local hospitals, they now have to go to Unis for training. Apprenticeships is another, TAFE colleges have closed or reduced usage.

They say 'what goes round comes around' so I wonder if we will see decentralisation again. I certainly would vote for any party advocating such

CJ, how nice to see that you are still incapable of backing up your stupid statements with the reasoning behind them.

I'd ask you what you meant by 'We've been down this track before', but you'd dodge that question too.

You really are pathetic - all wind and no substance.

Fractelle.
Look after yourself.

CJ
I agree that the Drs. Union(s) plural (oo um the U in the same phrase as Drs) including specialists’ Colleges, all control Drs and surgeons, specialist numbers.

Hypothetical.
Imagine something on the leather seats turned the Govt into He/she- person heroes (they would be politically exposed too) and fearlessly did the right thing.
• Selected Drs would resign from hospitals
• Visiting specialists wouldn’t visit.
• Many would simply flee over seas to better money. The shortage of Drs is world wide. It would be 10 years of Chaos in the public Health system until replacement are trained.
• O/s Dr wouldn’t come here. International Medical Assns. They don’t want scabs.
Consider history and how viciously precious Drs become if they think the gravy train/ power is about to be derailed (damn socialists).
• waning interest a MD is no longer a licence to print money. Many would get their degree and go O/S ASAP.
A common *excuse* “fair reward for the years of sacrifice and we make life/death decisions (entitlement). sniff.” What’s that smell?
• Obscene/well funded PR campaigns would be everywhere.
• Opposition schmoozing, deals etc. “Underbelly” would be fit for Playschool by comparison.
What price a Labor afterward?
Question “how do you get around it?”

The trades shortage: yes again but what do we do until then.

Refos to work farms?
• Many aren’t that fit/ traumatised etc
• Ethnic mixes, Not all farmers are jolly rational people look at some of the conservative who represent them Katter Jr, Heffernan, Tuckey. I’ve met more than a few raving jingoistic Wing nuts out there.
• Language difficulties etc
• Forced labour issues. Hmmm?
• Would they stay there? Hmm!
I’m not disagreeing just warning "it aint that easy."

PS. Ludwig I’m prejudiced against pointless parasitic life forms, well the media isn’t human (e). Bolt and ilk are simply the print form of the shock jocks hardly sources of rationality or information Any more than the ‘Jerry Springer show’, low grade entertainment.

Hi examinator - I never said it would be easy!

What I was trying to do was suggest some broad parameters within which we can "rethink immigration", such that Australia can achieve a sustainable population while simultaneously ameliorating our deficient skills base and meeting our humanitarian obligations.

Obviously, the broad objectives I outlined would have to be achieved gradually. For example, I think that the AMA and its associated gatekeeping facilities can be rationalised over time using a range of 'carrot and stick' initiatives. Trades training is somewhat simpler, but will require significant funding to redress decades of neglect by State educational authorities and employers.

With respect to requiring unskilled able-bodied refugees to move to areas where there is unmet demand for unskilled labour, I think that this could be achieved relatively easily if appropriate support structures were put in place, and it was done fairly. I'm not talking about the sorts of appalling practices that proliferated under the Howard regime, whereby (for example) large numbers of Sudanese refugees were dumped in rural areas with minimal language and cultural training, and absolutely no other support.

P.S. If anybody wants to know why I'm not responding to Austin Powerless' trolling, just have a look at the last thread where I played his hateful game with him:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2043&page=1

It seems to me that poor old Austin is looking for another "spanking", but this time I'm not going to play.

I've noticed that the standard of discourse in this forum has increased markedly of late, and I have no intention of feeding trolls who seek attention by derailing discussions with personal attacks.

I've noticed that the standard of discourse in this forum has increased markedly of late, and I have no intention of feeding trolls who seek attention by derailing discussions with personal attacks.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 19 March 2009 9:08:38 AM

Isn't that nice. Can we now look forward to discussions on such topics as immigration and multiculturalism without constant personal attacks by CJM, on those he disagrees with, alleging racism and xenophobia.

N.B. CJM's 3rd posting on this thread.

What a fool you are, CJ. You are incapable of following up when your flawed statements are questioned.

You make accusations of 'derailing discussions with personal attacks' yet are oblivious to your own guilt in this. In this thread, for instance, you are first to sling mud by accusing a poster of making a 'typically paranoid xenophobic response'. You love to chuck insults but react in your usual fashion when they come back at you. So pathetic.

Go ahead and administer 'another "spanking"', but maybe you'd like to point out when I received the previous one. Or was it a 'spanking in absentia'?

The link you gave suggests that you have nothing better to do than come on this forum and spout your drivel. It's from seven months ago. I read through all the posts there and saw how you dropped out when your true character was exposed. Then I told Foxy that you were being childish and deserved a spanking so, it appears, you were not the spanker but the spankee.

Thanks for that link, as I had forgotten about your last drubbing. You obviously keep records of all the threads that you take part in. You don't have much of a life, do you?