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Diverse sexuality and selective compassion

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Foxy.
Earlier you said Cleopatra was attractive regardless of the inbreeding.
This is contested. The prevailing view in scientific circles is that she was unattractive.
She was said to be beautiful because that's what the palace scribes were told to write.
It' only with recent scientific advances that people have an accurate idea of what she looked like and apparently it's rather ugly.

Divorce Doctor - you say that politically correct orthodoxy reigns supreme on OLO.

Bulldust.

PC's what people in a minority say when others disagree with them. Everyone here is free to say what they wish within reason, and there's plenty of people with opinions way outside the box, be they the anti-feminist brigade, anti-muslims, anti-christian, anti-left or anti-right.

So, allow me to express myself in all my politically incorrect glory: your commentary here is pissweak whingeing. Of course people disagree.

Maybe you feel 'oppressed'. Well, you're doing the same 'oppression' to supposedly PC people, which translates to just being mad that more people disagree with you than agree.

PC enough for you?

Great. Go nuts in your reply, say whatever you wish, but don't pretend to be some kind of martyr.

KMB - as far as the 'in your face' argument goes in relation to homosexuality... it doesn't hold water. It's logically unsound. Firstly, unless you hold fears you may be converted, what's the risk that comes from this supposed pro-gay propaganda? I'm not playing the "you think you may be gay?" card, I don't think that, but I'm asking an honest question.
Secondly - unless you have an issue with the core subject, how can the 'in your face' nature of it be an issue? For example, if you have no problem with puppies, would you be bothered by seeing a lot of puppy adverts?
What is the problem with people asking to be treated like everyone else?

If you stop looking for these pro-gay messages, you'll find they leave you alone. I don't seem to notice any and my heterosexuality remains unaffected by this supposed conspiracy.

Live and let live. Quite simple.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Sunday, 8 March 2009 9:31:01 PM
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KMB -
no, I'm not conflating two concepts - it appears to be you who has either deliberately or genuinely misunderstood the common understanding of the term.

I am at a loss to understand why you seek to establish a link between homosexuality and incest if you really have a clear understanding and knowledge of these subjects.

Directing me to some obscure site which states clearly and unequivably what its aims are - and which nowhere states any reason for the link you infer it will provide between homosexuality and incest did one thing, however. It clearly illuminates your intentions in opening this thread and that you have used it to express some bee you have in your bonnet about homosexuality.

I've asbolutely no interest in discussing this very passe subject. The sex lives of my friends either gay or straight is of no pressing concern to me and those of complete strangers interest me even less.

In fact I find this interest in what other people do in bed - or wherever - by certain OLO posters to be both puzzling and rather distasteful.
Posted by Romany, Monday, 9 March 2009 12:04:11 AM
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Romany
The thrust (if you’ll forgive me for talking about what people do in their bedrooms but you started it with your talk of oral sex and anal sex)) of your argument appears to be that homosexuality is an identity and that incest is a sexual practice.
The comments in the linked site demonstrate that these people see GSA as part of their identity.
If we accept this for other proponents of diverse sexuality why shouldn’t we for the incestuous?
Why should we relegate them into the sexual practices basket as you have arbitrarily done?

TurnRightThenLeft
The “in your face” part of the objection comes from my son and my neighbour’s daughter each coming home from different primary schools on separate occasions worried that they might be homosexual based on ignorant, propagandising teachers telling their respective classes that “10% of you will be gay”.
Why should innocents be exposed to concepts which don’t belong in the classroom?
Why should the >98% be lumbered with the problems of the <2%?
Posted by KMB, Monday, 9 March 2009 4:37:33 PM
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And yet KMB, that still doesn't answer the question. If you didn't have an issue with it, then the alleged 'propaganda' wouldn't be an issue.

Furthermore it's dross because people just ain't swayed that easily. If your son or daughter is heterosexual then they'll be attracted to the opposite sex. If they're not, they won't be. Thus, I really don't see the threat.

Again, your claims seem to be founded on illogical concepts.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Monday, 9 March 2009 9:57:57 PM
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TurnRightThenLeft,

When your question is answered I suspect CJ will be vindicated to a degree.

With all due respect I don't believe you should be claiming that all KMB's claims are based on illogical concepts. Possibly they are but you have not established that and his feigned call for incestous rights has not been successfully challenged.

I believe KMB is at fault for giving that impression by not challenging the comment which seems to underly your belief:

"Firstly, unless you hold fears you may be converted, what's the risk that comes from this supposed pro-gay propaganda?"

Surely you must be aware that a sizeable portion of the population fail to embrace the "pro-gay propaganda" and these base their reaction on things other than some type of introspection about their sexual preferences. This could relate to gay identity, homosexual behaviour, or some particular political issue such as gay marriage/adoption. Underlying the objection could be beliefs as diverse as homosexual behaviour is offensive to Allah or children are better raised by a mother and a father whenever possible.

I'm suspecting that when KMB answers your question he will admit to a negativity. He has indicated that his son and neighbour's daughter are getting pro-gay education at primary school. It stands to reason that if he has a problem with "gay propaganda" that he would not warm to that. If your son and neighbour's daughter were taught 6 day creationism in primary school would you logically necessarily believe that your sexual preference or attitude to religion were prone to change to have a problem with it? As an atheist KMB would probably feel the same. This is just another example which relates to his attitudes.
Posted by mjpb, Friday, 20 March 2009 11:12:51 AM
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