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What if the Libs had won?

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Sancho, if the Libs had won power, we’d have almost exactly the same style of governance. That’s it in a nutshell. The Libs and Labs are two peas in a pod, practicing just the same sort of doctrine, totally hooked into massive continuous never-ending growth, propping up a dinosauroid economic system, beholden to big-business, completely non-sustainability-oriented, eeeetcetera.
Posted by Ludwig, Monday, 2 February 2009 6:32:06 AM
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I am pleased that the Libs were not elected given the current financial crisis. At least Rudd looks like he is willing to review our current obsessions with growth economics but Howard would still be defending and supporting the system from the banks of the river as he watches the head disappear under the water.

'Face-saving' politics is dangerous. Costello knows this too well after his leak to the media about the leadership agreement with Howard - and Howard's subsequent decision not to honour it to save face. Deny, deny to the end.

It is not weak for leaders to admit mistakes nor is it wrong to take a second look at the dogma inherent in many decisions.

Without this, we remain stuck within the quagmire and mythology of an inefficient, inequitable and rotting system.

Like Col I don't agree with everything Rudd has done but at least there is a glimmer of hope.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 2 February 2009 8:23:12 AM
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I have a friend who says if your aunty had balls she'd be your uncle...

Foxy,

There would also be a greater donations to orangutans in Indonesia. Be fair.

4) Women and children would still be locked up behind barbed wire.
So KRudd is still happy to lock up men? Or they don't count in your eyes?

6) Exploitation of the armed forces for political purposes would continue.
All armed forces have and always will be used for political purposes.

7) The old and the poor and the disabled would be worse off.
I'm thinking you mean 'old and poor' not 'old and the poor'. The non-poor old did bloody well from Howard.

ASymeonakis,

I think the Health and Education systems DO have huge problems. Overwhelmingly because of State Labor Governments though.

PS: I'm not sure yet whether the Rudd government is any better than Howard. I will have a summit and asign a Committe to decide for me, and get back to you in six months to a year. Then I'll create a RuddWatch web site to keep him in line.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 2 February 2009 9:35:50 AM
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If the Libs had won;

1) Nuclear power stations across the country would be in the first phase of development. Creating thousands of jobs and saving us from the economic crisis.

2) Aboriginals would be treated equally, and not patronised.
Posted by TRUTHNOW78, Monday, 2 February 2009 10:04:26 AM
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Ha. Treated equally? Poor white people are allowed porn and booze. You don't see the military coming down to housing estates like Macquarie Fields.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 2 February 2009 10:57:47 AM
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The welfare entitlements would been reduced- GFC would used as an excuse. The Howard scapegoating of people with disabilities and the unemployed would have escalated. Given the reduction in job vacancies unemployed and low waged single were as deserving of the government Christmas bonus as those who received it.
Regardless of who was in power reduced exports prices because of reduced international (particularly China)demand would lead to reduced national income.
Bank deposits needed to be govt backed regardless of party in power to stop loss of confidence but the flow on to super wasn't handled brilliantly.
Govt next stimulus should be direct infrastructure and services spending. Debt for projects with long term benefit make economic sense in a recession.
Posted by media player, Monday, 2 February 2009 1:09:47 PM
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