Communicat: "I do not know what the answers are. I would like others to think about it and be aware of it."

Spikey: "Maybe some of the other OLO posters know the "answers" better than you then? What's the point of making people aware of an "issue" when you don't know what the "answers" are unless you are open and receptive?"

Communicat: "I am sorry Sparky I didn't realise you had all the answers...Humble apologies Forum members. I will retire from the debate and allow Sparky to continue to provide all the answers."

Spikey (real time): I didn't realise Spikey had all the answers either. Flattered though I am by Communicat handing me the role, I don't deserve it. I suspect his dummy spit is simple frustration and he'll be back in due course to help us all out with life's tricky questions.

In the meantime, please carry on regardless.

Communicat: "...instead it can encourage a tenuous identification by some with a particular group for their personal advantage."

Spikey: " The key word is "some". Would you damn a whole system because "some" might use it for their personal gain? "

Racism is the providing of gain or penalty on basis of race.

Racism is the qualification of rights and or responsibilities on basis of race.

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The simple fact is....that when Human Rights laws discriminate in favor of one group and against another.. which happens in many ways... the 'system' must choose 'which' group will suffer.

If one groups 'Human Right', means that another group will feel insulted, disenfranchised, marginalized,threatened, annoyed, humiliated etc etc...then it is difficult to speak of 'Universal Human Rights'.

The simple fact that if you have 2 different religions..where one curses the other by name... there is a case for discrimination and hate speech. It's not a matter of 'interpretation' because any Judge who has an ounce of experience in interpreting documents will see quickly that the curse called on Jews and Christians in the Quran, is entirely consistent with the overall message and idea of 'Shirk'.

So... when a Homosexual get's annoyed that a Pastor preached against the practice in his church.... he thinks of his human right to embrace any sexual orientation he likes, AND not to be criticized about it (or.. he might think he was born that way) so..he tries to supress/oppress the human right of 'freedom of religious expression' of the Pastor.

There is no running from this.. no escaping... "Human Rights" laws without a social context and history are more trouble than they are worth.

A countries history, culture and prevailing social fabric must ALways be taken into consideration when discussing or applying so called "Human Rights"

The extreme situation might be where a country has a very clearly defined and homogenously practiced culture.. but has signed up to the convention.... then ONE migrant comes along with a different culture at odds with the host countries..then he whines about discrimination... goes to court..and wins.

Beyond rediculous.

BOAZ_David,

"Beyond rediculous." You said it, David. (Well nearly!)

I think I could make more sense out of your posts when you morphed into Polycarp.

polpak "Racism is the providing of gain or penalty on basis of race.

Racism is the qualification of rights and or responsibilities on basis of race."

Yep and that sums up why I feel disgust with all "affirmative action" strategies.

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