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Man charged over posting video

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What the hell is going on? Who's making these decisions? How are they overseen?

Clips of the most hideous violence are only a click away, yet the QLD cops prosecute someone for distributing a vid of a man playing with his child.

This has gone far enough.
Posted by Sancho, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:01:17 PM
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There may be some method to the madness. The political powers that be involved would want a lot of convictions to make it look like something is being achieved. People with kiddie porn are probably fairly cautious. People with Simpson cartoons fess up easily and the sources may well be googleable. (Is anyone game to try?)

It is like the low level speeding fine thing. Convictions are easy at the bottom end even if it defeats the original purpose of the law enforcement. A result is achieved that makes it look like something is being done.
Posted by mjpb, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:24:58 PM
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Sorry Steel Mann Im not with you in anything.
I find you too lukewarm and open to many types of immorality.
Im with those who are hot for Jesus and His Word and what it says.

Hi Bugsy.

Im for greater restrictions on porn or anything that corrupts the child so I dont mind the charging of those who do things that threaten children.
Even 'swinging the kid' clips are bad encouraging.
The offender will get a day at court. It might then get dimissed? Who knows.

Spanking and even the cane at school wont kill the child but discipline them.

Im also for an awareness of what One World Government of the future wants for the private citizen. When the 'chipping' comes it will be a free will choice to take it... or resist the system that wants to 'chip'.
The Bible says Revelation 14:9-11 not to take the chip/mark.
Posted by Gibo, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:52:35 PM
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rstuart
My take on this is slightly different.
In the first instance the child was a baby. These sorts of activities are best avoided for someone so young (brain damage as in shaking). For children say 3+ the argument is not so clear. I might or might not have given my children aeroplane whizzes at 4-6 YOs. I can't remember. But in the light of current law I doubt that I would have been that irresponsible ;-)

Notwithstanding that one wonders at the application of the law as it excessively a ‘black letter law’ application. . Again here is the definition and as such should be altered forth with.

It seems to me that commonsense dictates that nuanced definitions like this is counter productive. Far more wise to publish the potential consequences or post a public warning against such practices.

I wonder if this squad has heard of the ‘common man test’ if they have then they should be instructed to use it before creating public angst and wasting valuable court time for such a trivial issue.

If there is any culpability then it is theirs for not contacting Utube to have the item either removed or have a warning in place.

Even my ancient mum has rang her MP. I’ve written to the appropriate minister and asked for a common sense response.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 12 December 2008 1:04:00 PM
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rstuart

"The people who passed the laws making this illegal"

Actually, they didn't. The law in question refers to a child being subjected to "abuse, cruelty or torture." Courts will construe the word "abuse" in that context, as something akin to the other two.

If the video has been correctly described, including the fact that the child was smiling at the end, then what the man was doing seems highly inadvisable, and quite dangerous, but it is not "abuse" in the sense intended by the legislation.

This charge will probably be dropped, or dismissed at the committal stage, because the available evidence simply doesn't prove the elements of the offence.

The real problem we have is that police behave like a bull in a china shop at the remotest suggestion of something that falls into the child pornography area, and rush in with warrants and charges before wiser minds have a chance to prevail. Witness the Bill Henson child pornography charges that were subsequently dropped because they were without basis.

We can only hope that in time the police will learn, and make appropriate legal inquiries before they act. After all, neither this case nor the Henson case had any element of urgency about them.

Sylvia.
Posted by Sylvia Else, Friday, 12 December 2008 1:04:31 PM
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I'm so glad that some of you secularists and politically correct folks are SEEING just how the Law can be when it is used by your mob.

You can be pretty sure I'd say that the impetus from this level of scrutiny of subject matter..(Illingworth's action) is not coming from the 'bible basher' segment..or evangelicals.. I'm happy to be proven wrong here... if such is the case, but this smacks of the tyranical, PC 'human rights' advocates attitude where they (like the pharisees of Jesus day) try to codify every aspect of human behavior.
When it turns around and bites them in the ideological bum, they scream foul!


Well..sorrrrrrry.. this is the result of that mode of thinking and approach to social values.
Posted by Polycarp, Friday, 12 December 2008 1:16:03 PM
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