You will never learn, will you Boaz?

It is very bad form indeed to spray allegations around, as you have, and have done on a number of occasions before, without the slightest shred of evidence.

Here's a quick clue:

"I heard it from an insider" is not evidence. It is hearsay.

To take a rumour - in all probability from a prejudiced source - and spread it around as fact is the act of a scoundrel.

I am stupefied that you, after all the attention you attract each time you make one of these "claims", persist in doing so.

It really is not good enough, you know. You cannot just go around accusing people of corruption, and then use it as an example to support your argument, simply on the basis of idle gossip.

Spikey;
Firstly, I never try to convince any one that I am right. I put my point of view and if you do not agree that is your perogative.

1. Multi-racial we are, multicultural we are not. We have always expected those comming here to abide by our laws and standards.

2. The MC ideology imposed on us by Whitlam, Grazzby and then Fraser and other politicians put down aussie culture in preference to ANY other. We were told to accept the culture of others. But only partly, we kept our laws and type of government. But have allowed our social standards to be eroded in many ways.

You want examples of this. The Cronulla situation was brought about by the conduct of some ethnic groups to other beach goers there. Authorities did nothing about this for many years dispite many complaints. Finally the locals decided to do something about it. Nothing was done to prevent the, so called, revenge attacks.

We allow people like the Croats and Serbs to bring their age old hatreds with them when they come and act them out.

If you do not know, FGM is against the law in all states but not one person has ever been charged with an offence relating to it. Dispite ample evidence available. Government turns a deliberate blind eye. Do you agree that young Aussie born girls should be subject to this torture. Funny though, there are regular raids on cockfighting activities.

What about the removal of nativity scenes from malls and pre- schools Santa visits, because somebody claims offence.

3. No we are NOT MC. Name a culture that we completely accept and embrace.

Most ordinary Aussies care little about a persons religion or race but expect them to respect our culture, laws and social standards.

CJ,
It's worth considering how you may make people feel when you call them or their ways beliefs’ "xenophobic and/or racist" , they are actully very heavy and very often wrong, misplaced and exaggerated accusations.

Name calling has your causes a lot of harm.

Chainsmoker,
There are too many people who are against multiculturalism to re educate such a huge mass of the society, as you have seen try as they already have with various "programs" it is still highly unpopular.

Spikey,
I think Banjo may be alluding to a preference for multi-race over multi-culture because it requires people integrate.

P00_stains
Society with all it's foibles is a group of people who share through a combination of socially and legally determined rules by which they live.
While not in an act of war if a person plans and then kills another what is he/she if not a murderer?
Therefore behaviour that exibits or defends xenophobic or racist tendencies are as described. So too is an individual who presents themself that way.
Name calling, unfair etc applies when the claims are untrue.

Both CJ and I simply called a spade a spade rather than a manual implement otherwise known as a tool. For the purposes of manual excavation or moving of localized loose terrestial substrates.

Most sentient people would then question the relevant attitudes beliefs as to their appropriateness.

Ph00 stains,

Having spent ridiculous amounts of time watching these arguments about race/multiculturalism/immigration on OLO, I've come to the conclusion that few people understand exactly what the Australian version of multiculturalism actually is.

The core idea is that migrants will understandably cluster around the familiar until they get the hang of Australian culture. Sometimes that will take a couple of generations. If we're going to have immigration we need to accept this simple fact and assist people with integration if we can.

To my knowledge there's no evidence that your majority who don't support multiculturalism understand this. Every time we discuss it here there's plenty of evidence that people think it's about maintaining distinct cultural or even racial groups. Nobody has suggested that that would be a good idea. Supporters of multiculturalism here have talked about cultural integration going both ways - we learn from migrants and they learn from us, and we're a richer society for it.

These arguments are about race more than culture. We could be an entirely white anglo nation and still be multicultural. We have goths, urban trendies, junkies, suburban working families, rural communities, Aboriginal cultures, skinheads, petrol heads, surfers, bikie gangs, Ita Buttrose wannabees, corporate executives, communists, geeks, bogans, Catholics, Protestants, Exclusive Brethren, Masons, white supremacists, any number of cultures within our overall society. Why is Greek culture more objectionable than geek culture?

Chainsmoker has a valid point.

Why is Greek culture less acceptable then Geek culture?

Possibly because the Greeks or any other immigrant
group, is seen among low-status whites
as competitors for scarce resources.

Surveys have shown that this sentiment
is strongest amongst low-status whites
who feel most threatened by the economic
progress and what's seen as competition of the minorities.

The evidence from other countries
also shows a consistent pattern of
intolerance towards immigrants,
among low-status members of the
country's dominant group.

Things however do change,
once the immigrant group is able to
gain greater equality.
For example the strong hostilities that
originally existed against Japanese, Irish, Italian,
and other immigrants in the US
has gradually lessened as these groups have
gained entry to the broad American middle-class, where they
are now seen as equals rather than as rivals.

Antipathy is now greatest against other groups,
such as blacks or Chicanos,
who remain relatively impoverished.

In Australia, things will also change with time -
as immigrant groups gain equality.
Hostilities will undoubtedly continue - when
new immigrant groups take their place.

Events follow a fairly predictable course -
especially when
the sentiments come from low-status whites - who view any
newcomer as a competitor for scarce resources.

This low-status group will always develop
contemptuous beliefs about the
supposed inferiority of the minority groups to justify
their continued prejudices and supposed supremacy.

Coming from a low-status part of society they are
difficult to educate and the problem will
unfortunately continue to exist for them.