The Vatican has directed that YHWH must not be used in lithergy or service, that Christian god should be known, as, "Lord," to reconcile rites with Paul. The Jewish faith will not like that one.

Oliver,

The vatican has often done things contrary to the Word of God. Nowhere in Scripture are we directed to have a 'lithergy' so I would not be to concerned.

The Jewish faith has never been to friendly to those who follow the Lord Jesus Christ anyway so I don't see what the big deal is about. One day the Holy One of Israel will be revealed to all the Jewish ones who reject the Son of God. They will finally have their eyes open to the Alpha and Omega, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace, the great I AM, the One who was and is and is to come.

It seems to me that it is mainly the Jehovah Witness's who get hung up about God's name Yahweh in the old testament. They are cultish with many un biblical practices.

Hi Oly

mate.. you should provide us with some links mate. More info please.

The primary issue with the Catholic Church is this:

SOLA SCRIPTURA or.. SOLA ECCLESIA? Or a combination?

The Reformed/Protestant position is that all Church tradition and individual behavior should be measured against the Scriptures.
The RC Church on the other hand believes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura
<<The Roman Catholic Church against which the Reformers directed these arguments did not see Scripture and the Sacred Tradition of the faith as different sources of authority, but that Scripture was handed down as part of tradition. Accepted traditions were also perceived by the Roman Church as cohesive in nature.>>

This is most important in understanding why the RC Church has done things which are quite 'off' and different from Scripture at times in both it's doctrines and actions.

A classic example is the issue of celebate Popes and Priests.

Some facts of the RC Church illustrate the problem here.

1/ Peter was the first "Pope".
2/ Popes and Priests must be Celebate.
3/ Peter had a Mother in Law. (i.e..was married)

See the problem? :)

BELIEF and BEHAVIOR is something I've begun (hopefully)in a separate thread, to address this idea of 'how' to evaluate Church behavior at different times in history.

IF...you believe that the Church is the final arbiter in matters of Faith...then the Church says "Priests must be celebate" you will not be too concerned about the clear fact of Scripture that Peter was married.
It follows logically also, that if the Church says "We must stamp out paganism and idolatry with military force in the name of God".. you are more likely to accept this.

It is only when you believe that SOLA SCRIPTURA is the key to true doctrine that you would scrutinize 'CHURCH' actions in that light.

Polly,

The source is The Pope, via the Congregation for Worship & Divine Sacraments. Many references were citing. Key points of scripture, were Phil 2.11 & 1 Corinthians 2.8. It was not a website.

It was a directive. I am unsure whether or not the directive is Ex Cathedra,from Benedict, as The Vicar of Christ.

Poly, The angels said no L, however, poy might not work.

Poly & Oly:

"IF...you believe that the Church is the final arbiter in matters of Faith..." (Poly), then one cannot hold manifest the absolute accuracy of the "selection" of the four gospels from many fourth century gospels, nor the doctrine of the trinity, based so largely on the words/interpretations of men at Nicaea and Constantinople (Oly.).

The priests are celebate not because of reason of scripture, rather the Church did/does not want familial dynasties to evolve in ranks over time, taking control of matters like Royal Houses and, it didn't want to pay to support wives. At different times in the past RC priests could marry and might again in the future. Also, Protestant converts to the RC priesthood remain married, now.

The (Catholic) Church of England was estblished in thirteenth century. Missionaries go back to about the sixth century.

The split occurred over Henry VIII's love-life and a need for a male heir. Later, the rightful heir Queen (Lady) Jane was executed by the Catholics, because she maintained, based on scripture, there were two rather than seven sacraments. And, also, to get her out-of-the-way. Counter moves against "Papism" evolved into the reign of Elizabeth I.

With contention against Mary Queen of Scots (a Catholic), the Elizabethian Court argued over 42 Articles of Faith for a new religion, wherein, Elizabeth I fed-up with cleric's debate, chose the current Church of England 39 Articles of Faith.

A Catholic, I think, would argue that The Chair of Peter (The Rock) was established by Jesus and the succession is known; whilst the other Christian churches were established by people. Jesus did not give the Keys to Elizabeth, Luther and others. Jesus founded the Christian Church on the Foundation of Peter. So Catholics believe.

British monarchs have usurped as dynastic the title, Defender of the Faith, which was awarded to the Catholic (and he died one) Henry VIII, for his "personal" theistic scholarship. Calling QE II Defender of the Faith is a bit like saying the grandchildren on Olympians have gold medals too.

Dear Oly,

I scrawled through so many websites trying
to get to the bottom of why the Vatican
would issue such an order.

And, I still can't quite understand why they
would do it. One suggestion was that the pronunciation
was difficult. However, substituting "Lord" or some
other title for the name Yahweh as another site stated,
renders unintelligible so many key texts in the
Hebrew Scriptures.

Another site stated, "Yahweh is not a 'term.'
It's a name. A memorial name. It's not an expression
of the infinite greatness and majesty of God.
It's about being faithful to the Word Of God as
revealed to us."

It seems that the Vatican is making changes to suit itself
from all sorts of sources, but Scripture itself.