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Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 16 October 2008 10:42:46 PM
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CJ Moron “This from someone who refers to less fortunate people as "swill".”
No I have never used such a description or anything like it, to describe people because they are in circumstances less fortunate than my own. However such misrepresentation is typical of what we have come to expect from you, a midget among men. Concerning "Swill" I have attached that description to those who deliberately flaunt the Laws of Australia, by attempting to migrate here “unlawfully”. I see no merit in extending to them any courtesy or benefit because of their complete and selfish disregard for our legal system. They have, through their arrogant lawlessness, qualified for the contempt of every law abiding Australian and therefore are well suited to be considered “Swill”. This “fetid swill”, who pay people smugglers money with intent to evade Australia’s lawful migration controls risk our health from the introduction of communicable diseases, like tuberculosis, risk the introduction of criminal activity by professional criminals and gang members sneaking into Australia, as well as selfish “queue jumping”, which increases the suffering of those genuine refugees who stoically wait in line in the most dire of conditions to be accepted for migration properly. They qualify for the title "fetid swill" because of their attitude and conduct, not their circumstances. Like I said of you previously, you are giving morons a bad name, And I note a few other posters are offering you similar feedback. However, I do believe you are too arrogant and stupid to take it on board, so doubtless I have not heard the last of your inane misrepresentations and drivel. as to the "ethics of an ameoba", "Ethics" is something which your sort of swill usually limbo dances under and An Ameoba is a life form which, if you worked hard, you might one day aspire to. Keep em coming, Moron Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 17 October 2008 7:38:25 AM
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Col Rouge
"Concerning 'Swill' I have attached that description to those who deliberately flaunt the Laws of Australia, by attempting to migrate here 'unlawfully'." The overwhelming majority of people you refer to so contemptibly as 'swill', or unbelievably as 'fetid swill', are refugees in desperate circumstances whose endeavours to seek asylum are perfectly legitimate. The only laws they are 'breaking' are those imposed by a fearful and vindictive government, itself in contravention of longheld and widely-accepted international conventions when enacting those laws. You have no understanding of refugee issues at all. Your ignorance is exceeded only by your arrogance and rudeness. "And I note a few other posters are offering you similar feedback." Well, I'm not noticing it. If it is occurring, it would have to be in the order of a 99:1 ratio compared with the amount of negative feedback directed towards yourself. For most of us I'm sure, the more you swipe at CJ, the taller he stands. Posted by Bronwyn, Friday, 17 October 2008 10:11:21 AM
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Bronwyn
I tire of Col's constant referencing to refugees as 'swill' or CJ as a 'moron', combined with his regular doses of self-aggrandisement, makes his posts vile and devoid of any credibility. That he now blames low-income people wanting a home of their for the Wall Street melt-down is further indictment of his ability to blame everyone, thinking that he is making himself appear superior. WRONG! Col, you could easily be mistaken for a Flat Earther: "For the last month, most of the world has been watching the Wall Street gang drowning in their own greed as they threaten to pull the rest of us down with them. However, while we have been distracted, the Flat Earth Society has developed its narrative to explain the crisis. In the Flat Earth version, the real villains in the story were the public/private mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Prominent Congressional Democrats like Senators Charles Schumer and Chris Dodd, and Representative Barney Frank, are cited as accomplices. According to the Flat-Earthers, the problem wasn't sleaze bag bankers pulling down tens of millions a year pushing predatory loans to people who didn't understand them; the real problem was Congressional Democrats, who wanted the government to help the poor and minorities buy homes... ....no one should shed any tears over the collapse of these two giants - the top management and shareholders got what they deserved - it is equally ridiculous to lay the blame for the financial crisis on the shoulders of Fannie and Freddie... ...Fannie and Freddie made a conscious decision to dive into the junk in order to protect their market share, which was being seriously eroded by the aggressive tactics of private giants like Citigroup and Merrill Lynch..." Blaming low-income people (the most vulnerable) for a clearly market driven phenomenon is nonsense. This is especially true because the crisis is obviously due to neo-lib lack of government regulation and oversight. Most of the players in this greedy game are in the private and not the public sector. Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 17 October 2008 10:51:23 AM
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Ooops.
Due to word limit & lack of editing function OLO, I forgot to quote my source: http://www.alternet.org/workplace/102964/the_flat_earthers_try_to_pin_financial_meltdown_on_fannie_and_freddie/?comments=view&cID=1034943&pID=1034298#c1034943 Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 17 October 2008 10:53:22 AM
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Fractelle,
Maybe if CJ attempted to make a positive contribution to the debate instead of standing on the side lines carping, he wouldn’t find himself a target quite so often. Whatever Col has said in the past, his categorisation of queue jumpers as swill has some merit. Please tell me why you think it is acceptable to take these people who get granted refugee status over people who are at least as deserving, and who have abided by the law. You socialist types would be screaming bloody murder if wealthy Australians were rewarded for behaving like that. Imagine the uproar if, when you were injured, you could bribe your way into the emergency room at your local hospital, ahead of all the others waiting patiently, by offering money to a facilitator. That’s what illegal refugees are doing. They are depriving ALL those legitemate refugees, who are waiting in their home countries for their forms to be processed according to the rules, of a fair go. The old system rewarded those who were wealthier and cavalier about the law, and punished those who were poor and law abiding. But by all means tell me why these queue jumpers deserve to be processed before those who wait. Secondly, I think the “FLAT EARTHER” terminology should rightfully be applied to the socialists who have NO comprehension of economics whatsoever. You reference this >> “Fannie and Freddie made a conscious decision to dive into the junk in order to protect their market share, which was being seriously eroded ..." This is ABSOLUTE nonsense. First, Fannie and Freddie owned or guaranteed HALF of all the mortgages in the US. Secondly, the gov’t directed them to give loans to poor people. And they were given rewards for doing so. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/09/AR2008060902626.html. Maybe you should actually have a REAL look into this issue instead of relying upon AlterNet. Unless you’re the sort who believes that all of the media besides the socialist websites is in the service of the “Military industrial Complex”. If that’s the case, let me know because I am wasting my time. Posted by Paul.L, Friday, 17 October 2008 12:31:08 PM
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All the ethics of an amoeba.
This from someone who refers to less fortunate people as "swill".