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Miss Match on Sex

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I have two IM programs. MSN Messenger gave me this news headline when I logged on this morning: "Aussie women prefer patting dogs over sex" (but note it is not this headline on the actual news report) http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=640293&rss=yes ; Yahoo gave me "Aussie men happiest having sex: index" http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5052832. Not only is it the same research, but it is exactly the same article sourced from AAP.

Raises a few questions. Are Aussie men and Aussie women telling researchers the truth, and is there therefore a mismatch between desire and experience in the general population?

Has the Internet really brought us a diversity of views, or just more ways of accessing the same views?
Posted by GrahamY, Thursday, 2 October 2008 8:53:18 AM
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It's obviously a bit more complicated than this, but even in these times of financial independence for women, male sex workers are vastly outnumbered by female sex workers. That would suggest a difference in demand, and possibly a difference in libido between the sexes.

With regards to the AAP stories, I see this all the time.

Also, you may be interested in the tactic of 'Linkbait'.

Some site makes up an incredible story from thin air. All that's needed then is a lazy journo (not hard to find) to read this and take the bait. So the reputable news site puts a link to the site of this fake story as a source for it's own story. The site with the fake story gets hits and advertising revenue as a result.
Posted by Usual Suspect, Thursday, 2 October 2008 9:39:24 AM
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Interesting question.

Firstly, it would appear that like most media, the titles are aimed to inflame, so the reader is interested in looking further. One appears targeted to potentially get up women's noses (men prefer sex), the other to gets up men's noses (women choose pets over sex), which is probably indicative of the majority of subscribers of either MSN or yahoo. Unfortunatly I think a lot of people fall for this. Hmm, aggression in society being fanned by subtle media manipulation is a topic that hasnt been explored for a while.

Focus.

The problem is, as with all surveys, responses are limited to the questions posed. If for example one was "watching your team win the grand final" that may well have won first place for men (or women). Not knowing what the choices were, I am only having a stab in the dark. Looking through the results though, they seem to reinforce/confirm common stereotypes, so I am not sure that the conducters of the survey actually achieved anything.
Posted by Country Gal, Thursday, 2 October 2008 9:44:08 AM
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I don't know whether this goes to answering your questions, GrahamY, but it seems to me the choice of headlines may be reflective of nothing more than the implementation of editorial spin on the part of the respective corporates: Microsoft/Channel 9, and Yahoo/ Channel 7, respectively.

It seems in the mainstream media old habits die hard.

I note that it is Microsoft/Channel 9 that is the truth twister in this case. Fits.

With respect to the headlines differing from the title of the actual news report, both myself and Klaas Woldring have noted the occasional retitling of articles on OLO in the past. Which is not to say there may not have been reasonable editorial input involved.

Is there in the world of journalism any convention of consulting the true author of a news item if retitling is involved? I have no background in journalism, so I don't know. I do think that in the OLO context it might be practical to implement a convention that an author's title be accepted as it stands unless there has been agreement that it be editorially altered. That would help put OLO even more cuts above the mainstream spin media.
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Thursday, 2 October 2008 9:46:05 AM
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CG,

'Hmm, aggression in society being fanned by subtle media manipulation is a topic that hasnt been explored for a while.
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Ever see FrontLine:-)

Jack Marx had a funny article recently...

"On the front cover of Fairfax’s The Sun Herald is the big scary headline, “Drunken State”, with a sub-heading telling us that NSW “hospitals treat 40,000 for alcohol abuse in one year”.

.....

I call Duncan Bone of NSW Health and ask if I can be directed towards the relevant material. He replies that he’ll have to make inquiries through Della Bosca’s office (odd), but that he’ll get back to me.

http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/rehabilitation/
Posted by Usual Suspect, Thursday, 2 October 2008 9:57:35 AM
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Headlines are designed to suck as many people as possible into reading a story. Often the headline has little to do with the story itself, but the main point is to attract eyeballs to support advertising. It's not about actually informing anyone about anything. The media has a totally different set of priorities to its consuming public.

Also, marketing is now using polls to promote clients. They've realised people are interested in the society they live in. "More Australians prefer flat white" tells you nothing you need to know, and may not even be true, but it's an opportunity to get a quote from someone representing a coffee shop chain (the client) into what looks like a story, and make the reader think about coffee.

The danger is that people stop trusting the real thing. When polls become meaningless, what of democracy?
Posted by chainsmoker, Thursday, 2 October 2008 10:59:53 AM
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It's clear to me that Aussie women are the most loving and giving women around. Bless them all.
Posted by Daisym, Thursday, 2 October 2008 2:35:37 PM
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Graham ,

My guess is that after a hard day at the office or factory many womens' sex drives may take a bit of "turning on",especially when they have children to look after as well . There is a lot of pressure out there .

In many cases, I think it is men's needs and women's gift giving and harmony making, that gets us together for a large part of our lives .

But a tail wagging dog with a big smile on his face has to get attention .

Men ARE different . Our biology has us almost perpetually in "Ready " mode .

Even if we do kid ourselves a bit .
Posted by kartiya jim, Thursday, 2 October 2008 4:17:24 PM
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When I was a young bloke, still at school, I bread a few horses. I had a stalion, & a few mares, & was going to breed the best horses the world had ever seen.

My father arranged for a very experienced, old lady horse breeder to come & give some advice. Some of the advice was a bit more than expected, it's a pity I did not take it to heart, then.

Pointing to a mare she said, "see that grey mare, she's all over the stalion". "She wants to get in foal, & she won't leave him alone, until she is". "Then he had better keep his distance, she'll kick the sh#t out of him, if he keeps bothering her, once she's got what she wants".

She went on,"now you remember young feller, we women are just like that mare". "Don't take a woman's desire to get pregnant for more than it is". "She may want to keep you around, to help {pay} with the raising, but don't get between her & that foal". "Just like that mare, she'll kick the sh#t out of you if you do".

It's a pity it was 20 years & much money later that I remembered that advice, definately the best I ever recieved. Applying it has made the next 25 years much better.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 2 October 2008 6:12:07 PM
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