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Removal of Parental Rights

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This is how the system corrupts our children and ruins society. The age of consent is 16...To take a 14 year old girl to the doctor, without parental permission, for the pill, no matter how much she wanted to try sex, is a crime. Yet these people do it and do not get punished.

It seems that the system isn't protecting our children, following the law or doing the right thing. What sort of example is that to be set for the kids and to build the foundations?

It is not a good way that they are grooming our society. Underage sex, underage drinking, drug abuse all in the name of choice leading to issues like babies, drug abuse, violence and crime. Does anybody else see the pattern?

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Posted by Jolanda, Monday, 1 September 2008 5:06:59 PM
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Jolanda,
you say: "To take a 14 year old girl to the doctor, without parental permission, for the pill, no matter how much she wanted to try sex, is a crime".

Do you mean crime in the legal sense or in the subjective 'moral' sense? Because if you mean the former you are absolutely mistaken. A 14 year old can consent to medical treatment as long as the medical practitioner is convinced that she understands the implications of such treatment (with the onus being on the medico to refute the assumption that the patient understood).

Illegality in this case would only arise if the school, nurse or GP breached the girl's medical privacy. In fact, if the TV show identified the parents (and hence the girl), then the TV network would have a case to answer.

That's the law; as a general rule I don't have a problem with it. In this case the school and GP appear to have acted entirely appropriately and no amount of ill-informed, self-righteous huffing and puffing from a TV show changes that.
Posted by Kassie, Monday, 1 September 2008 5:57:49 PM
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The age of consent is 16 and school personnel take a 14 year old girl to get the pill so she can engage in something that is against the law and you do not see a problem with this?

Gee that is a worry.
Posted by Jolanda, Monday, 1 September 2008 6:08:29 PM
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Jolanda,
I'm just trying to explain the law to you; it's not that difficult to understand. You said that the school had committed a crime... and you are absolutely wrong. Whether or not the 14 year old has committed a 'crime' by engaging in sexual intercourse is irrelevant to the issues of consent to medical treatment and privacy. And my opinion (and your opinion) of the 14 year old's behaviour is also irrelevant.
Posted by Kassie, Monday, 1 September 2008 6:40:31 PM
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Just because the system has set things up to protect those who encourage underage children to have sex doesn't mean it isn't a crime.

I am just trying to explain that to you.
Posted by Jolanda, Monday, 1 September 2008 6:47:08 PM
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Jolanda:"Just because the system has set things up to protect those who encourage underage children to have sex doesn't mean it isn't a crime"

There is no suggestion of encouragement, merely harm minimisation in a situation that already exists. Are you more affronted by the nurse's action in doing so, or in her failure to inform the parents?
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 1 September 2008 7:23:53 PM
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