CJ Morgan

I am not going to debate the literary merits of a novel I've never read.

The "loss" is the fact that Muslims could intimidate a respectable publisher to that extent.

Give the events I cited in my previous post it is hard to dismiss Random House's fears as mere paranoia. People have died at the hands of Muslims who have taken a dislike to their literary or video output. Others have had narrow escapes.

I forgot to mention that Westergaard was living under police protection in an hotel because Danish police had uncovered a plot to murder him. (Same link as previous post)

Is that also a case of paranoia?

Given the weight of evidence the paranoia theory is wearing a bit thin CJ Morgan.

Like Pericles you seem unable to face reality.

steven>"You’re going to have to do better than that to demonstrate censorship in US media."

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steven>"Censorship comes to America"

I have provided censorship examples that are much more important than this decision on a stupid book and more prevalent. Propaganda btw is essentially censorship. Look up the owners of media in the USA. There is next to no competition at all.

Methinks a little pot-and-kettle activity is occurring here, Boaz:

>>how you can completely deny the obvious and allow prejudice to run your increasingly irrational mind<<

You are, in your zeal to portray us all as being under threat from every passing Muslim, missing the obvious.

It is all there, in your mate Geert's speech.

http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1810

“The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims”

He's nailed his colours to the mast, just like you do: we are all about to be murdered in our beds.

Then he tells us, in the same speech:

“The Koran also states that Muslims who believe in only part of the Koran are in fact apostates, and we know what has to happen to apostates. They have to be killed.”

He goes on to point out that there can be no such thing as moderate Islam. Which by definition means that there can be no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

Are you with me so far?

OK, now here's the question.

If the root cause of these terrorist acts against non-Muslims is strict adherence to a literal interpretation of a few Surahs in the Qur'an, why are we not seeing the streets lined with the bodies of the 99.9% of the Muslim population who abjure violence against their fellow man?

Logically, they should be at equal risk to the rest of us.

What we are seeing is nothing more than terrorism for the usual reasons – acquisition of power, and control over others. Everything else is a useful smokescreen, fuelled by propaganda, with the targets helping the process along by jabbering in fear every time another threatening pronouncement is made.

Fear is driving the entire agenda. Religious fear is of course the most powerful of all, simply because it is based in irrational emotion – the “irrational” here not being figurative and pejorative, but merely literal.

It seems to be working, too.

I'm seeking a court order to have CJ and PERICLES institutionalized for the good of society :) Larundel awaits you blokes.. shame shame..

GOOD GRIEF!

Pericles, (TweedleDee) in the light of the numerous cited documented examples of threat, violence, intimidation and murder..is living in some psycedelic twilight zone.. along with CJ (Tweedle-very-Dum) who after years of academic study....(sitting beside Dorothy in the land of OZ?) does not know the difference between 'well founded rational' and 'unfounded irrational'.. as he uses a totally innappropriate term "Islamophobia" for something that is clearly not 'that' in fact..it is it's opposite.

Given that CJ... with his 'string of academic qualifications' would use an innapropriate term, *knowingly*... it begs the question as to his motivation? Political?

With Genetic diversity, the problem is..when majorities.. suddenly become 'minorities' by some quirk of international politics (Serbs in Bosnia)
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE0D61530F93BA15752C1A962958260

So.. genetic divesity is great.. I for one have done this.
But cultural sedition from minorities is unnaceptable and must be opposed at every crossroad.

Thus, it is extremely important for Governments to exercise wise stewardship of the immigration mix, such that our migrant community is varied and has diverse and reasonably equal representation of races and non threatening cultures/religions.

Another way of putting that is 'divide and rule' :)

You are also missing the point a little, stevenlmeyer.

>>Your last post tells us rather more about Pericles and his refusal to face reality than it does about Wilders<<

When you get to my age you see things with a little more of a historical perspective.

Have you heard of ETA? Khmer Rouge? Tamil Tigers? FARC?

Their major weapon has never been the size of the gang, or the rightness of their cause. Merely the level of fear they could insert into ordinary people's lives, simply by identifying them as potential targets.

The IRA used precisely the same tactics when they randomly targetted restaurants and pubs, and left bombs in bags on tube trains.

The idea is to make as many people as fearful as possible, that “they may be next”

Anyone who travelled the London Underground in the eighties knows exactly what I am talking about.

These are terrorists, using terrorist tactics.

There is not a world-wide conspiracy to kill us all in our sleep, or even to hang us high in a public place as a lesson to others.

Just a small number of deranged – but intelligent – terrorists, whose objective is to increase their own power over the lives of other people.

That's what the IRA were about, and what Shining path and the rest of them are all about.

What they are really, really good at, is playing upon our own deepest fears – of imminent death, or the death of family and loved ones – and encouraging us to react irrationally to those fears.

Geert Wilders, surrounding himself with six bodyguards, is are merely indulging in look-at-me politics, encouraging others to feel the same fear that he does.

Or that he pretends to, in order to make his political statement.

After all, he supposition that he needs six bodyguards never needs to be tested, thanks to the Wimbledon tiger theory.

>>Truly there are none so blind as those who will not see<<

I see what I see, stevenlmeyer. I don't invent problems where there are none.

Well Boaz, it looks like you blinked.

>>Pericles, (TweedleDee) in the light of the numerous cited documented examples of threat, violence, intimidation and murder..is living in some psycedelic twilight zone..<<

It is a truism that when you have lost an argument, all that is left to you is bluster.

This is bluster, pure and simple.

Also, I might point out - although it isn't entirely clear at whom this was directed...

>>he uses a totally innappropriate term "Islamophobia" for something that is clearly not 'that' in fact..it is it's opposite.<<

Guess what?

Neither CJ nor I used this term. You imagined it.

It looks suspiciously as if you have lost the plot, Boaz. Despite an attempt to renew yourself with another name, your arguments remain as hollow and superficial as ever.

Have another look at your position.

>>...numerous cited documented examples of threat, violence, intimidation and murder<<

Well, yes.

But they do not differ in any material way from the threats of terrorists down the ages. You have chosen to elevate this particular category of threat to a level that enables you to feel comfortable in vilifying an entire religion.

That is your choice. It is also the choice of your current hero, Geert Wilders, to exaggerate the threat to a level where he professes to need six bodyguards.

Six!

How does that work, Boaz? Two in front, with pistols drawn? One each side, with dark glasses and lapel microphones? Two behind, walking backwards, watching the shadows.

Interestingly, it is also throwing down a challenge - come and get me! - that no-one has taken up. Look at some of the political assassinations of the past, and tell me that six bodyguards actually make a difference.

Come on! It's theatre, pure and simple.

A particularly nasty piece of whack-a-mozzie theatre it is too. Reminding people constantly of the "danger" he is in, and by definition everyone around him.

Not forgetting those moderate Muslims. They're just as much at risk, aren't they?

We know, because Geert tells us so.