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Is Israel upping the stakes

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I just love the loony-left. Their inconsistencies are astounding.

There is NO evidence that carbon dioxide is fuelling climate change, yet these people will have us bankrupt ourselves to be on the safe side.

But when it comes to Iran, who have made direct threats against Israel, who deny that the holocaust took place, who have a leader who communes with a 1000 year old man hiding down a well, and who are chasing nuclear weapons to further their ambitions in the region, the loony lefters still continue to deny that Iran poses a real danger to its neighbours and the global community as a whole.

Examinator,

Please tell me exactly how Israel’s problems with Iran are going to affect the Palestinians and the ceasefire?

Tell me how you can justify Hamas STILL rocketing Israel during the ceasefire

Tell me how Israel’s nukes give it the edge, since it has never threatened anyone with them?

Show me an instance where Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons helped positively influence the outcome of a confrontation or policy of its neighbours. Ie something in Israel’s benefit.

Israel defeated the combined Arab armies three times over 30 years without resort to nukes. Israel’s nukes are only useful as a deterrent and prevent its neighbours from WMD type attacks on Israel.

You just need to listen to the words of Hamas themselves, yet you keep making excuses for them, pretending they don’t really mean what they say. Or do you just not care that they want to ethnically cleanse the region?

"We don't recognize Israel's right to exist. We will never allow Jews to remain in our lands. Today's attack was only a sample of what we can do. We have thousands of rockets ready to be shot.” http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55362
Posted by Paul.L, Sunday, 3 August 2008 10:57:43 AM
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OK, enough already with the noise

Yes, it is common knowledge that Iran is building Nukes (sh!t, even the UN knows that).

Yes, it is certain that they have threatened to use them on Israel.

Yes it is known that the Saudi's, Egyptians, Pakistani's etc. are VERY concerned (perhaps even more so than the Israeli's at what could happen).

Yes, it is known that the US cannot afford for Israel to start it.

Yes, the USA has been known to bow to pressure from it's buddies in the Persian Gulf (first Gulf war is a prime example)

Yes, Israel has openly stated that it will attack Iran if it believes Iran has nukes.

Thus it is fairly certain that pretty much everybody in the Iranian Air Defence Network is looking at Israel as the most likely actor.

So, who do you think will pull the trigger, knowing that America is being pressured by it's oil producing friends, knowing America cannot afford for Israel to start it, knowing that America has the airpower, the weapons and the ability to do the job itself and knowing that the current Presidential term is about to expire on a two-term President? Especially this one, who seems to have no difficulty in starting wars in the Middle East?

Hmmm, which way will they come from? Indian Ocean, Turkey, Pakistan, Iraq, ...?
Posted by Haganah Bet, Sunday, 3 August 2008 11:25:24 PM
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There was once a time when I 'gambled'.. playing poker .. for the massive sums of err.. 10c, maybe in a moment of madness.. a DOLLAR...
I still remember the feeling of being dealt 3 of a kind at the first dealing.. then the eager anticipation of the next 2 cards! would trhey include a forth.. 4 of a kind? ohhhh the sweating moment..and then.. when it came.. the deep deeeep satisfaction that I was now unbeatable.. but until you get that forth card.. you dare not show your 'colors'.. your desire to 'destroy' the enemy and take the pot.....no...

You hang back.. wait.. and see.. when you have that 4th, THEN.. you put ALL your funds into the pot.... and go for broke.

Iran? reminds me a bit of that feeling.

Something tells me that we are within a very short
distance from unmeasurable world destruction, and strange
as it might seem.. I'd say this with or without any Bible verse
to support it. One need not mention Armageddon.. one just
needs to mention 'history'.....

One doesn't need to refer to the Quran... again.. just history.

It must be an incredibly scary time for those at the top
of the pile.... in every Nation.. except those who are
insane enough to think they are doing Allah's will in
preparing for Nuclear power... they ? hmm they will
just be waiting for that 4th card.... then....
Posted by Polycarp, Monday, 4 August 2008 4:24:49 PM
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Remind me to invite you to a poker game sometime, Boaz.

>>until you get that forth card.. you dare not show your 'colors'.. your desire to 'destroy' the enemy and take the pot.....no... You hang back.. wait.. and see.. when you have that 4th, THEN.. you put ALL your funds into the pot.... and go for broke.<<

I'd want to be playing for more than a dollar, though.

Seriously though, if you believe that a gambler feels it necessary actually to see that fourth card - or Iran needs to see its equivalent in miltary or political terms before taking action, you are in some danger of misreading the situation.

Incidentally, it may be worth noting that four of a kind is not invincible.

>>4 of a kind? ohhhh the sweating moment..and then.. when it came.. the deep deeeep satisfaction that I was now unbeatable...<<

Four queens beats four eights, for example.

And a straight flush beats both.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:59:35 AM
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