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Nude Children: Exploitation or Art?

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runner, "The porn does not make them less susceptible to lust but more."

You have been presented with viable evidence previously showing that increased access to porn does reduce rates of sexual assaults. I'm assume that you have chosen to ignore the evidence because it does not fit your preconceptions.

While the evidence is not absolutely conclusive it is far better than anything you have produced to support your chain of reasoning. I guess you are running true to form with your ability to review your beliefs based on new evidence.

For a quick summary start here http://www.reason.com/news/show/123330.html

The paper is included in lecture notes at http://www.law.stanford.edu/display/images/dynamic/events_media/Kendall%20cover%20+%20paper.pdf

Col I think also has previously supplied details on Scandanavian research with similar findings.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 6:13:28 PM
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Robert

It might make you and others feel a little more comfortable about viewing pornography by quoting misleading and false conclusions. Try reading
http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/2006/09/pornographys_li.html

I know the facts do not confirm your 'preconceptions.' And if you are not convinced read this article

http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/2007/09/post_8.html
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 6:41:09 PM
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runner you disgust me with your ignorance. If what below is true, you have quoted some strange, crackpot homophobe (not really surprising since you are such a hateful person)

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Writer Max Blumenthal does a good job encapsulating some of Reisman's Greatest Hits:

On the international gay conspiracy:
"I would suggest to you that while the homosexual population may right now be one to two percent," Reisman reportedly told a Christian Right conference in 1994, "hold your breath, people, because the recruitment is loud; it is clear; it is everywhere. You'll be seeing, I would say, 20 percent or more, probably 30 percent, or even more than that, of the young population will be moving into homosexual activity."

On Jews as babykillers:
"Everyone knows Jews do lead the abortion industry, and I'll thank B'nai B'rith from the bottom of my heart if they can prove otherwise," Reisman, a Jew, said in 1995.

http://chasecuts.blogspot.com/2004/12/more-on-kinsey-who-is-judith-reisman.html
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Also apparently about some of her work:

http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/index.php?s=kinsey

-=-=- The PORN STUDY
Avedon Carol writes:

..... 'The term child used in the aggregate sense in this report is so inclusive and general as to be meaningless.' Figlio told the press, 'I wondered what kind of mind would consider the love scene from Romeo and Juliet to be child porn'. (Carol, 1994, p.116) [ 6 ]

Dr Loretta Haroian, the cochair of the plenary session of Child and Adolescent Sexuality at the 1984 World Congress of Sexology, an expert on childhood sexuality, commented on Reisman's work,

This is not science, it's vigilantism: paranoid, pseudoscientific hyperbole with a thinly veiled hidden agenda. This kind of thing doesn't help children at all. ... [Reisman's] study demonstrates gross negligence and, while she seems to have spent a lot of time collecting her data, her conclusions, based on the data, are completely unwarranted. The experts Reisman cites are, in fact, not experts at all but simply people who have chosen to adopt some misinformed, Disneyland conception of childhood that she has. These people are little more than censors hiding behind Christ and children." (Carol, 1994, p.116). [ 7 ]
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Posted by Steel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 11:21:46 PM
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I think that last paragraph there is a rather apt description that applies to the likes of Hetty Johnson and others in this debate. Very intersting as it was made in 1994. The source is christianity and/or feminism...I couldn't be any more certain about this now that I have seen this. I guess in a way i should thank the bigot runner

"simply people who have chosen to adopt some misinformed, Disneyland conception of childhood that she has. These people are little more than censors hiding behind Christ and children." (Carol, 1994, p.116). [ 7 ]"
Posted by Steel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 11:28:15 PM
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Thanks for you input Steel. Runner, I strongly disagree. As far as sex offenders feeding on porn - this is the same as alcoholics drinking a lot of alcohol, drug addicts buying a lot of drugs, and compulsive gamblers buying a lot of lottery tickets.
Runner, it may interest you to know, I am a Committed Christian and a member of a nudist club, so I speak from a point of authority. It might also interest you to know that in Australia, about 7 per cent of nudists are Born Again Christians, from all denonimations. That is in line with the national average. As far as lust is concerned, nudity is not needed for that.
Posted by Steel Mann, Thursday, 10 July 2008 8:56:23 AM
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runner, thanks I needed the laugh. You found an author capable of the same kind of extreme leaps of illogic that you so cherish. Well done.

"As proof, Reynolds quotes a U.S. Department of Justice claim that in 2004 rape of "people" over age 12 radically decreased with an "85 percent decline in the per-capita rape rate since 1979" (DOJ's National Crime Victimization Survey of "thousands of respondents 12 and older"). "

"Since the DOJ data excludes rape of children under age 12, child rape may be up 85 percent, for all we know."

Eg since she does not want to believe the evidence she postulates that the rate of sexual assault of female children may have gone up by a massive factor dispite clear evidence that the rates of sexual assaults have decreased.

If you can't tell the difference between a serious study using verifiable data and drawing reasonable (and guarded) conclusions and a article put together by someone determined to defend an existing postion making gigantic assumptions unsupported by evidence then that pretty much confirms my views of your capabilities.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 10 July 2008 9:12:30 AM
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