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Canada 1984 the new Gulag of inHuman Rights.
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Posted by Spikey, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 3:32:27 PM
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Spikey, I wonder if we can persuade Boaz back to this thread in his new disguise of "Polycarp"?
Might be fun to try, even if only to find the reasons why he won't return. Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 10 July 2008 2:29:07 PM
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Pericles
I think Mr BOAZ has done a runner (and left it to runner). I think Polycarp doesn't SHOUT enough to be Mr B in mufti. (Oops! Unfortunate metaphor. Don't mention Islam...I did but I might get away with it.) Posted by Spikey, Thursday, 10 July 2008 2:38:19 PM
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BOAZ scores much higher on the crackpot index than Polycarp. Thus we can prove statistically that they are not the same person.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html Posted by Sancho, Thursday, 10 July 2008 3:48:43 PM
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Well at least Not-Boazy's in good company.
I haven't seen Jack the Lad around lately. Playing with sock puppets can be kinda fun sometimes. Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 10 July 2008 4:14:06 PM
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Pericles and Spikey,
The return of Boaz_David? Look-out for "Obed_Salmon". Come-on Boazy prove me right old friend. Oly. Posted by Oliver, Sunday, 13 July 2008 5:21:17 PM
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Your "re-establishment of the facts" is classic self-deception.
What you've re-established is that you relied on partial, outdated and ultimately wrong facts and didn't bother to check before using this flimsy basis for an attack on homosexuals who had the temerity to exercise their right to redress for an intemperate attack on them.
You compound your problem with the facts by claiming that: "The conviction was appealed and dismissed, but not on the basis of Swedish law, it was on the basis of the possibility of an appeal to the EU court of human rights."
Wrong. The Swedish Appellate Court, using Swedish law ruled that it was not a crime to say what Pastor Green said. The court found that Pastor Green's rhetoric wasn't harsh enough to be criminal. Moreover, it concluded that it was not illegal to offer a personal interpretation of the Bible and urge others to follow it. http://www.washtimes.com/news/2005/feb/11/20050211-110207-7628r/
In any event, the European Court is part of the Swedish legal system as it is part of the system of justice in all EU nations.
So, all things considered, you are deluded if you believe that, after all, "...it remains an established fact that Sweden itself, seeks to criminalize the proclamation of the Bible in its fullness." Such a paradox: your "established facts" fly in the face of your "re-established facts".
You conclusion that "...the story.. remains unchanged, ie... the oppression of Christians by secular law, shaped by vested interests such as the Gay and non-Christian religious lobby" is a distortion of the 'established fact" that Swedish law upheld the right of churchmen to preach whatever they think the Bible says (right or wrong).
It's sad to read Mr BOAZ that you have "...said all that needs to be said on the issue, apart from the fact that repentance is always an option for those who have hearing ears".
Pontius Pilate didn't tolerate the truth either. Classic self-deception.