Mr Right: << To those who cannot, or will not respond, I can only assume that, to you, being a loud mouthed, permissive 'arty' type is OK only as long as your own kids are not involved. >>

See my reply to you on the other thread. Please try and refrain from projecting your sexual hang-ups on to those with whom you disagree.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1831#36550

Repressed goose.

CJ MOrgan

'There is absolutely no sin in nakedness. However, there probably is in projecting your own sexual fetishes and hang-ups on to others.'

Well we finally get a confession out of you that there is such a thing as sin. I really was wondering if you knew anything about right and wrong. You condone adults exploiting (sorry photographing) 12 year old boys and girls naked and call it art. You defend deviants.
By the way no one ever said their was sin in nakedness but their sure is plenty of shame in displaying it to every Tom Dick and Harry. You have twisted this debate from one of child exploitation to another topic.

Defend the sick artist as much as you like in the name of free speech or art but your view is repugnant to many and even unacceptable to your beloved Mr Rudd ( who now gives less 'artistic freedom than his predecessor).

Some cultures cover-up: some cultures don't cover-up. Especially, say three hundred years ago, in less economically/technically, people often went naked. There was no guilt.

The latter has ramifications for Genesis, because, we are all are meant to feel the guilt of "original" sin, when we, humnans, are aware of our nakedness; yet, folks in many sociteies didn't feel guilty only a few centuries ago. A few societies, still would not feel guilt, even today.

Michelangelo's work in the Sistine Chapel should be destroyed and Michelangelo declared a pedophile. Actually this applies to any painter in the middle ages with their church-commissioned works.

CJ and Pericles -

Bravo.

Jolanda, I'm quite capable of thinking outside extremes. You made the post couched in absolute terms, I responded by showing what absolutes could mean in this instance. The issue is not as clear cut as many would make it out to be.

I don't think that making kids uncomfortable about their bodies is helpful nor do I think it is productive for any of us to live our lives bounded by the misuse someone may put to what they take from us.

Fractelle, "although I would like to add that there are as many male wowsers as female" - totally agreed although I don't have the numbers to back that up :) If my post read otherwise it was completely unintentional.

R0bert