It is obviously time that we as a Nation need to have an Australia wide competition to create a red blooded Aussi Challenge Corroborree "Haka" to really put the Kiwis and those other Pacific Nations with similar challenge dances off their footie game.
It would be an exciting spectacle before the game for us too and a lot better than swearing at them .
Perhaps the Council for Aboriginal Reconciliation , Mal Brough and the sports keen PM John Howard could sponsor it .

Not a bad thought Kartya Jim.. perhaps it could include a hybrid of various cultural gestures which all mean 'up yours' kind of thing. (in a friendly spirit of course)

but I can't imagine white fella's prancing around with ochre and mud on them prior to a footy game :) but who knows... stranger things have happened.

Back in the days when Paul Hogan was still painting the Sydney Harbour Bridge, there was a very Australian comedian/actor called Sid James, who was one of the mainstays of the British comedy films, the "Carry On" series.

In Carry On Up The Khyber [notice the terrible rhyming slang double entendre re the Khyber Pass?] a Scottish Regiment, the Third Foot and Mouth, had the unenviable task of repelling a much larger force of wild tribesmen [a bit like the Kiwis]. They successfully did this by turning their backs and lifting their kilts. And we all know what a true Scotsman wears under his kilt, don't we?

OK, it's just a suggestion---

Ok Rex, a lighter note, we were in the grand final of our local footie [aussi rules]this year after a long finals drought .
It was suggested to me by a younger senior netballer that should we be losing, their team could position themselves behind the point posts, turn around and give their short skirts a flick just as the opposition was attempting to kick a a goal.I was shocked and taken aback !
WE were behind ,they wussed out and damn,once again we lost !

BUT Back to the discussion ,tonight we will see thousands of WHITE and Mauri ALL BLACK supporters get their blood up by singing in their Indigenous language, the "anthems" of New Zealand .

Now the thing that would slay them all in aisles is----when the Kiwis start their haka, the Ozzies take out knitting needles and ,while watching , knit stolidly.
I do believe it would create a real diversion.

Kartiya Jim.. do I read you right in understanding that you are aboriginal ?

We have quite a good atmosphere in this thread.. no dissenters yet!
A good example of our future as Aussies eh :)

Why would there be any dissenters David....I think most pple on this forum are regard each other as equals don t you think..at least thats how i see it...your looking for controversy where there is none..

Kartiya ..your selling out to whites..your pple would be ashamed of you.

It's a great idea, regardless of who thought it up.

I'd love to see something themed around the one thing indigenous and non-indigenous Australians share - love of the landscape despite the brawls we have over who owns it.

Think of the landscape shots in Crocodile Dundee for example. The important thing is not who owns it, but that it's there without six lane freeways and strip malls ploughed through it. All of us see that and have a feeling of belonging, even if we live in the cities.

Is there some series of gestures Aborigines use to say "get stuffed, our landscape is better than yours"?

Hate to be a wet blanket, mate, but re the posts suggesting dancing, everyone knows white men can't dance!

Quick response for Achilles:"sell out" , what sell out?
Chainsmoker. The idea is to have a competition amongst Aboriginal dance groups in each State to compose a new Australian International challenge Corroborree ,ie an Australian reply to the Kiwi Haka .Most Pacific Nations have their own challenge dance before International games.We should too!
Perhaps and I am just throwing out a few ideas , the left hand can shake and fend with the [imaginary] shield while the right has the spear, boomerang or two handed fighting club ready to throw or use .Say finish off with some language incorporated from each state , blood curdling whoops and knees weakening WHAAAs!!
Reconciliation Australia, John Howard ,the other state Reconciliation groups, and the public could support the prize and make it worth while . This to go to the vote of a panel of Aboriginal ELDERS and a group of other Aboriginal respected Aussis. WE plebs COULD VOTE ON THE NET. It could be judged in time for the 2008 Australia Day - 220 years after the First Fleet .
Forrest, Have you seen those white blokes dance the Haka ? they can dance and sing it like their Mauri team mates .We are just out of practice .!
I think it would be unifying and uplifting for all Australians.

Just like we havn't got enough stereotypes to deal with..

DOh! i just worked it out, you're really a mig arn't you..

Rex's idea that our team "moon" the Kiwis would certainly show them what we think of their silly bloody haka.

It would also make the first half a pretty torrid affair, I bet.

Yes, Rainier - I do believe you're right. I was confused for a moment there too...

On HAKA history , at a Melbourne rugby game recently I asked a visiting Mauri kiwi who was visiting his transplanted family ,about it's origins . He said an old bloke had composed it while in prison around the time of the Mauri Land Wars in the middle of the 19th Century .
I have no doubt that it helped them convince the Poms that they should have a Treaty [good idea]while uplifting the prisoners .I am not sure of the age of the other Pacific "Hakas".
There's a few stuckinthemuds out there!.