Thought that may get the thread going.

TRTL, how long is it going to take you to see that AGW is a UN sting, perpetuated by my mates the academics, as a nice little con.

However, when it comes to Kevin Rudd, [Krud for short], I realy feel sorry for you, & people like Belly.

I honestly believe that he is well right of me, & is laughing, [behind thst smug smile], at all you lefties, who have such hopes for his leadership. The joke is, that you elected him, & are proud of him.

God knows where we go, now. The dems are dead; The greens are rat bags; The nationals are a rump; The libs are a joke, particularly with their new leader, which only leaves us with labor. God help us. Ironic, how rudd ended up leader of the wrong party. Life is strange.

Thanks for the last 2 posts truly thanks, see while the election results still fill me with triumph, I have stopped rolling in it.
Well seeing as you bought the subject up, every state, every territory, the federal government in a victory that delivered John Howard a far greater defeat than Mad Mark Lathams, extraordinary!
The early promise keeping, the confronting of issues we hid from just 3 months ago.
The idea that even before the house sits Brendan Nelson is in flight from the next leader of conservative Australia.
Gentlemen/Lady's thanks!
Now for the reality's of Australian Politics , it will take more than words used in pain, than shallow slurs to unseat a man who clearly cares, who is determined to bring real change and real accountability.
You could this morning with a little though remind us we now have the highest interest rates since the last ALP government was in power , but that too highlights a conservative problem.
regards and thanks.

HasBeen, Scotty....well said, couldn’t agree more, the Australian electorate has once again illustrated perfectly just how gullible they are. Mr Rudd, as you say, is a consummate actor, with absolutely no idea what he’s doing and his compadre Mr Wayne Swan is even worse.....not sure about “Elmer Fudd” but “Dumb & Dumber” are more appropriate pseudonyms for the pair of them.

I never said I was proud of him HasBeen, in fact I said quite the opposite.
My point was, anyone foolish enough to judge him at this point is clearly so absorbed in the grip of their ideology they're not making a reasoned judgement.
The terminology you used in your last post has been tendered as evidence, and I've explained why all your definitions of the PM are based on a pre-existing negative perspective.

With Howard on the other hand, we've had many years to judge, and we know he's a scoundrel. Kevin Rudd's unproven either way.

As for global warming, I think any chump on the street who thinks they know more than the vast international scientific establishment -either for or against - well perhaps they should reassess the chip on their shoulder.

I can honestly say that Kevin Rudd is certainly being pre-judged as demonstrated by some "know-it-alls" that have contributed to this thread. Please correct me if I am wrong but last time I looked Australia had a democratic political system. The majority rule, the minority complain.

Flash states “the Australian electorate has once again illustrated perfectly just how gullible they are.” Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me. Lets revisit this thread in 3 years time to fully and accurately assess this question.

Kevin Rudd was pre-judged before the election...and Australians elected him. Now they have to live with the decision - and it is going to be a very thorny bed.
Of course there are those who enjoy wearing hairshirts and lying on a bed of thorns.
Some of the problems are outside his control but others, such as the promised tax cuts, are within his control and he is not listening to the sage advice of the RBA. He is listening to the unions. Therefore inflation will rise more than it needs to - with all the associated problems.
Australians were greedy. They wanted to do it the easy way and (to misquote) the road to hell is paved with gold intentions.