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What should we do with people like Samina Malik?
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Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 8 December 2007 8:04:16 PM
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Seconding what David said:
Secular society already has thought crimes on its books: -Some countries lock-up people who express the thought that The Holocaust did not happen (as David Irving found out), & -If you kill or bash someone and you are motivated by racist or ‘homophobic’ thoughts –you stand to get an added sentence. Then we have the thought crimes on the religious books. Where we are told that if you think of a woman in a lustful way, you have already sinned. And who can forget those feminist posters around campus that asserted that if you ‘leered’ at a woman you were already guilty of a host of horrendous crimes… Posted by Horus, Saturday, 8 December 2007 8:29:49 PM
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If someone breaks the law in actually making statements encouraging
an act of terrorism then the law should be applied. That law should apply a lifetime ban on being employed in proscribed industries, such as aviation, public transport, data systems etc. The list would be long but it should be looked at in the light that a typhus carrier would not be employed as a nurse or a chef. Someone who had a psycholical problem would not be employed as an airline pilot or a train driver. Likewise a moslem who has advocated or supported acts of terrorism should be proscribed from what are generally acepted target industries. You don't like it ? Tough ! Posted by Bazz, Monday, 10 December 2007 9:27:40 AM
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the question at the thread's title was 'What should we do with people like Samina Malik?'.
While I agree on the danger of creating and acting on 'thought crimes', the other side of the coin is to wait until something actually happens, which doesn't help potential victims. Maybe an investigation should be carried out to see if the person in question is capable and willing to take the thought further into action. I don't think that excuses of overstretched police resources etc should be used to back out of this. Take some cops away from traffic duty where they were employed to stop someone driving a few Ks over the limit or revving up a noisy car. Then, if the investigation proved a genuine risk of thoughts escalating to violence etc, inter or, if forein-born, deport the potential perpetrator. I wonder how the muslim countries would deal with similar 'threats'. Posted by Jack the Lad, Monday, 10 December 2007 12:26:40 PM
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I don’t know if Malik is a British national but she should be offered the opportunity to live in one of the Muslim republics. She can the practice her beliefs with her Muslim brothers. She has no place in any western society but should fit in well in Iran or Yemen.
Posted by SILLE, Monday, 10 December 2007 6:16:38 PM
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Samina Malik is not intending to be a terrorist threat. Unfortunately her values and beliefs speak volumes and can fuel the mind of someone who could potentially be one.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbIosTmXXQo&feature=related
Some interesting aspects.
Cheers