Not quite Arjay.... the fact of Jesus being Son of God, is without question only able to be understood in one of 2 ways.

1/ Loony, crackpot invention by desperate lonely pitiable people.

2/ Truth.

On the balance of probabilties.... [with with the opinion of a giant of the legal profession having subjected the evidence to the "rules" of evidence, (Simon Greenleaf) ] is heavily with the 'Truth'.

I'm happy for anyone to challenge this, but only on the basis of the rules of evidence, not some whacky bigoted desperate grasping after secular straws :)

For example, if Christ's messiahship was an invention of men, they would have done a MUCH better job than conjouring up one who will die for mankinds sins. They would have stuck with the 'when ur on a good thing, stick with it' slogan and promoted a HERO type messiah, which the Jews were in fact expecting.

It took a longggg time for Jesus to actually crack the nuts (thick heads) of his disciples and even after telling them 'The Son of man will be killed, yet rise again after 3 days' his followers were discussing who among them was the greatest....which of course attracted Jesus rebuke.

Nope.. the hero's humans invent are Che Guavearas, Fidel Castros, and various others. You know..the guns blazing types.

Jesus was the real (eternal) thing.

stevenlmeyer what is this sexist racist thing of yours?

I'll wager that SCOTTY will be an impoverished eunuch.

I bet the Odds have been Fixed and the "socialist minded" want a tax levied so as to build sheltered workshops for impoverished gamblers.

I dont know anything about sporting activities, but I agree with the first posted list... sort of. How do you measure intelligence? I read a few years ago that on standard tests the Irish come out on top followed closely by the Chinese...
The point you are making, I gather, is that our system of government is seriously flawed. A popularity poll every three years virtually guarantees all important decisions will be made by incompetent idiots and wannabe dictators.
We really do get the goverment we deserve and, lets face it, humans dont deserve even what they've got! If we were renting the planet [which we are in a way] we'd certainly not get our bond back.

ybgirp"A popularity poll every three years virtually guarantees all important decisions will be made by incompetent idiots and wannabe dictators.

We really do get the goverment we deserve and, lets face it, humans dont deserve even what they've got! If we were renting the planet [which we are in a way] we'd certainly not get our bond back."

as Churchill said

"...democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."

as for being "undeserving of what we have".

If we knew one another, you might know what I was deserving of and I know what you deserved.

Fortunately (for me at least), we do not know one another.

However there remains some differences between us -

1 I acknowledge and respect your right to be wrong.

2 I lack the arrogance to pretend to judge the merit (or otherwise) of your existence.