Garpet

I certainly was NOT going to ask this guy to strip so I could see his tattoo!

Those that committed suicide did not look to me as if they were accepting responsibility for anything. All they seemed to be doing was bailing out of an unpleasant situation.

Individual, TRTL,

A "do-gooder" is someone who has forgotten that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

BOAZ,

I'm sure that David Hicks also has a "conversion experience" – one that led him to support the Taleban!

Again this arguement is shown to be fruitless if their are no absolutes. Just one persons opinion contradicting the next. Quite amusing really.

STEPHEN.. exactly.. (Hicks) so... why not ask this "What is different about being converted to Christ and converted to Mohammad/Islam" ?

I've not contemplated joining some militia and shooting my way into glory.... but Hicks did.

Is there any connection between what Hicks was converted 'to'...and what I was converted to ? Values.. human/divine relationship.. truth vs falsehood..etc...

All food for thought.

It is not an ideal for me nor is ist my opinion when I write posts which are not accepted or more sadly, not comprehended. I am writing from experience & my experience showed me that most of the problems in society are a result of this nonsensical individual rights ideal. How on earth can one expect harmony when everyone thinks they should be entitled to go through life by their ideals & everyone else should pull into line. Well, my boy, that don't work. It's been proven so let's not start that argument again. It is of no practical use whatsoever to rave on about ideals. ideals don't provide a living, practical effort does. What the core of it all is, is that we don't have rules & follow them. The whole idea of rules is that everyone gives & takes. simple. You can't run a train if the rails are not parallel. individual rights is the evil which constantly widens or narrows those rails & causes the disruption. The idealists who can't see that don't give it a single thought about the people who constantly repair the rails because, in the end, they still get their goods.

No, individual. You're being far too simplistic.

It's about a balance of rights.

You can't just call 'individual rights' nonsensical.

Honestly, what garbage. It's the kind of thing a stalinist dictator would love to spout.

In fact, that entire last post could be used as a justification for a dictator state, and once translated, wouldn't be out of place for a fundamentalist imam preaching the necessity of conforming to the fold.

'individual rights' are what guarantee you the ability to believe what you want.
Though when you say "everyone thinks they should be entitled to go through life by their ideals" I can't help but feel you don't get that.

Of course rules are a necessity, though I don't think it's as bad as you make out, and yes, I think you're totally out of touch. See, I can quite happily go outside, meet with friends and do what I wish without harming anyone.

It's actually a pretty nice country to live in out there. It's often sunny, and we enjoy quite a number of freedoms. You should actually try experiencing it sometime.

Of course, our rights are limited if we decide to harm someone. That's when the law kicks in, and that's how it should be, because I'm now affecting somebody elses 'individual rights.'

The anarchic cesspool you seem to think the country has become, is a myth. I'm quite happy in this country, though you seem to think it's a crappy system, which quite frankly, just goes to prove you're not grateful for what we have.

The anarchic cesspool you seem to think the country has become, is a myth.
TRTL,
go, work & live in the communities in the north, watch the southern bureaucrats' exploiting the system, wrecking whole communities by pressing individual right then tell me I'm wrong.