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Atlas Shrugged to be screened

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AJFA - "pure capitalism is hardly desirable"? So deep down you're a pinko commie after all!

Funnily enough, I think pure capitalism *is* desirable, as a philosophy - but it would require re-engineering the human psyche for it to work.
Posted by wizofaus, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 3:57:20 PM
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The problem with pure capitalism is that it's as much doomed to failure as most other political and economic systems.

When it runs out of markets and uses up all the available resources, where can it possibly go?

The only system that appears to ensure mutual survival is "the family unit" which is more akin to small scale socialism or a type of monarchism but without the likelihood of corruption or violent revolution.

I personally found Atlas Shrugged to be pretentious, overblown and dull. I can't imagine it being any kind of popular movie blockbuster.
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 18 October 2007 12:56:15 AM
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Eep. Whoops, Ginx as well.

I tend to be of the view that ultimately, any economic system is flawed - though the purest forms are more extreme and thus, the inevitable collapse is more harsh.

Ultimately, capitalism is doomed to collapse one day, unless certain aspects are scaled back in the socialist direction, without adopting a socialist structure.

However, I doubt this will happen. I tend to think we'll head for both resource collapse and as a consequence of this and widening income equality, we're going to be in for a great deal of trouble.
This is largely because capitalism has a longer lifespan than socialism.
Socialism fails quickly - capitalism succeeds for some time before tottering. When it does collapse however...
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Thursday, 18 October 2007 9:14:16 AM
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AJFA
“set to become a movie blockbuster.” Have you bought 100 million tickets in advance?
“ I would recommend you bring as many lefties along as possible, so that they too can witness the ultimate consequence of sympathies towards socialism and relativism.”
I think you are a bit optimistic about the potential influence of any medium. If you took lefties along to watch an authenticated documentary about the relative standards of living of North Korea / South Korea; East Germany / West Germany; post war (WWII) Britain / post war Japan, they would still all come out remaining deep seated socialists with perhaps creative reasons why the doco was biased and unreliable, or perhaps declaring that there were more important things than having food on the table.
It is an unfortunate truism in this world that no one ever changed their mind due to rational argument.
The film, if it is made well, will in all probability have a great influence on those with an open mind who have never heard of Ayn Rand, but at the same time it is going to induce a LOT of criticism. The more so the better film it is.
I predict it will be a commercial failure which will cause the backers to regret making it.

It is still too early to make this kind of film. It needs to be made in celebration of when the world becomes somewhat more rational: When we no longer have to apologise for our financial success, when it is no longer a crime for a Richard Pratt to sell something (after colluding or not) for a price that the buyer beforehand freely agrees to pay, when employer and employee are allowed to freely negotiate for ANY conditions of the workplace, when the sanctity of the contract is returned and when it is no longer a virtue to be meek and humble.
If you have read her works you would be familiar with a certain oft used phrase about flinging pearls in a porcine direction. In contemporary times this is all that will happen.
Posted by Edward Carson, Friday, 19 October 2007 4:16:19 PM
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