Hi AC,

"Right now if China wants to fire a few shots at Australian naval vessels because the Aussies are provoking them by sailing through the Taiwan strait, then that's up to them."

We should beg them not to sink any, as we only have a couple that actually float. Could they hold off until 2045 or later when our secondhand nuk subs arrive from Uncle Donald!

I don't know why we are buying American nuk subs anyway, the new Chinese model nuk sub costs one fifth the price of those Yankee rust bucket jobs! Why buy an overpriced Ford for big dollars, when you can get the latest Great Wall model for heaps of Yuan less!

Navy, Air Force, submarines, battleships, fighter planes etc etc are & will prove to be a total waste of money, time & lives, China or no China. Australia can't even control its borders now in peacetime let alone in a conflict. Much more efficient & also much cheaper would be coastal missile stations all around the continent. If it's out of range of the missiles it's not Australia's concern !

It'd cost trillions of dollars Indy
I hear they're swimming in shite aboard the Gerald Ford
Angry sailors stuffing T-Shirts into the toilet system.
Haven't seen port in 8 months.

"then it should be easy to show."

Off you go then. Good luck.

""Observation" isn’t methodology."
What a ludicrous thing to say.... of course it is.

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""Ner, ner, we're sailing our crappy ship through your strait."

Its not THEIR strait. Its international waters. Although AC is so obsequious toward the CCP, that if they say its theirs. in his view that's the end of the discussion

You're the one who made the claim, mhaze.

//Off you go then. Good luck.//

I take it you are unable to support your claim of systematic skew. If it’s based on "previous polling," which polls and what were the quantified errors?

//What a ludicrous thing to say.... of course [obeservation is methodology].//

No, it's not.

Observation is how a hypothesis forms. It is not the same thing as demonstrating it.

If your observation is that CNN polls systematically understate Trump support, then that should be testable against historical results.

Which specific polls, and by how much?

"Its not THEIR strait. Its international waters. Although AC is so obsequious toward the CCP, that if they say its theirs. in his view that's the end of the discussion.

It's no wonder the world is always in conflict with thinking like this.
It's contested by China, and should be, considering Taiwan is recognised by the U.S. in the One China policy, you know - the concessions Nixon made when the U.S. wanted to export all the U.S. jobs so the rich could get richer.

And it's provocative, you're starting shite.

In fact it's also the equivalent of taking your pet dog over the road to shite on your neighbours nature strip each day, in full view, inviting them to do something about it, like turn the lawn sprinkler on you moron.

Seriously, grow the feck up Australia.

With this in mind, I wholeheartedly invite the Chinese to sail a carrier fleet through Bass Strait so that we can play 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander', and then I'll be able to hear your high-pitched girl scream from up here in QLD.

- I'm sure I'll be able to hear the screaming from Canberra up here, and you're closer.