Today the Liberals make up their minds about the crippling nonsense of Net Zero. Hopefully, Bragg will move to the back bench or, better still, resign from politics.

Yes I'm aware that there's all sorts of analyses around purporting to show that this or that country's emissions are slowing, rising, falling, or plummeting. The notion that we can measure CO2e emissions to within a few Gigatonne in any particular year is rather deluded. All we can hope for is these analyses provide a general trend over time that is in the realms of reality. Only a decade or two after the event can we say which decade or half-decade was the inflexion point.

I was hoping WTF? would point to the 'Carbon Brief' analysis as his evidence which would then have allowed me to point to this other 'Carbon Brief' report without it being rejected for not supporting the narrative....http://tiny.cc/sxwu001. Alas WTF was didn't play along. JD OTOH....

My point about the USA was that reductions in emissions is a result of modernisation, not renewables. The USA, a renewables pariah, has nonetheless managed to reduce CO2e emissions by gigantic amounts over the past few decades, even as it remains equivocal about the climate change mantra. So China reducing emissions or stopping increasing emissions doesn't say anything about their adherence to the CO2 jihad or being renewables evangelists, and more about them becoming a modern industrial nation

Whatever emissions are caused by China, they're intrinsically linked to the rest of the World's population which buys, uses & discards China's products every moment of the day. The only way China can reduce its emission is for the rest of the world not to buy its products.
To point the finger at China is nothing more then hypocrisy by the finger pointers.

Hydrocarbon fuels (coal, gas, and oil) still provide more than 90 per cent of Australia’s energy consumption as of 2023-24 (most recent data)

"In 2024, China's coal consumption was at a record high, with demand reaching approximately 4.9 billion tons due to strong electricity needs and reliance on coal-fired power plants"

I think that the flattening might be due to lower concrete and steel production. Heaps of thermal coal being used for power generation. Cherry picking time lines, and I'm sceptical of stats from authoritarian countries, the CSIRO gencost report for example.

WTF?

mhaze states: "I was hoping WTF? would point to the 'Carbon Brief' analysis as his evidence....."

WTF? I've never heard of the Carbon Brief but I may look it up.

Once again mhaze is exhibiting some bizarre behaviour by assuming the sources that I use.

I wasn't making a comparison between China and the USA so it is strange that mhaze took that path.

Most people realise that the USA is shifting from manufacturing to services and that China is still heavily into manufacturing and so their energy needs are different and changing.

The "renewables are bad" alarmists want to dismiss changing energy patterns. The shift is happening - not because of some "1960s kumbaya save the planet mindset" but because of economics.

Time for the renewable alarmists to move on from the 1950s mindset