Got it. Grok tells you things you want to hear and its the greatest thing in the world and how could I possibly dispute it. Grok tells you things (via me) that you would prefer weren't true and now its the worst thing in the world.

Do grow up.

You keep saying that you know that things that aren't necessarily proven aren't disinformation and then say it was OK to censor it because it wasn't proven.

I'm done. You've talked yourself into so many corners that even the comedic value of you trying to find a form of words to exit with a semblance of dignity has passed

mhaze,

You’re clearly done with the argument, yes, but not quite done talking about me. Let’s clean up the record on your way out:

//Grok tells you things you want to hear and it's the greatest thing in the world…//

Incorrect.

I’ve often criticised Grok’s tuning elsewhere - including its ideological skew, tendency to overcorrect, and false equivalences favouring a conservative viewpoint. And that's exactly why I use it to expose your tricks and false claims - it makes it that little bit harder for you to brush off the results of its damning analyses.

When Grok partially agreed with you, I quoted that too - openly. You’re just annoyed that it didn’t vindicate your entire position. That’s not my inconsistency, it’s yours.

//You keep saying that you know that things that aren't necessarily proven aren't disinformation and then say it was OK to censor it because it wasn't proven.//

Also false.

I’ve said multiple times that the issue is not whether something is unproven, but how it's promoted:

- As settled fact?
- With misleading implications?
- In defiance of available evidence?
- Or weaponised via troll/bot networks?

That’s the line moderation aims to walk. You keep ignoring the nuance because it’s more fun to misrepresent me as some anti-speech zealot. But that’s not a refutation, it’s rhetorical cosplay.

//I'm done.//

Fair enough. But if you ever do return with specifics, like:

- Which example was actually proven true,
- Which was formally retracted or reclassified,
- Which was coordinatedly suppressed rather than poorly moderated,

…I’ll still be here, not in a corner - as I'm sure Grok would agree - but right where I started.

Trumps a traitor to America anyway.
His election campaign was funded by people loyal to Israel, not America.
And these same people wish to censor social media in order to benefit that foreign nation Israel.
(Have already started doing so)
The forced sale of Tik Tok was in regards to Israel losing the support of young evangelicals who've begun to question US allegiance to Israel.
(Think Charlie Kirk)
Larry Ellison the largest ever private donor to the IDF is buying up the largest media properties at exactly the same time when support for Israel in the U.S. is unraveling.
- And if Israel loses young evangelicals in the US,it loses the US, social media is a direct threat to Israels hold over the U.S. and Netanyahu has himself said so.

Trump betrays the Bill of Rights and the 'Right to free speech'.
Trump is Israel first, not America first.

PROOF Zionists CONTROL Trump’s Cabinet – Including Marco Rubio!
http://youtu.be/EBGBhP-iuSE

The Kushner-Blair Gaza plan is a moral atrocity – and a policy catastrophe
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/30/tony-blair-jared-kushner-gaza-plan-catastrophe

"Blair’s partner in this enterprise, Jared Kushner, is, like America’s chief negotiator, Stephen Witkoff, and, indeed, Donald Trump himself, a real estate developer at heart. In Gaza, Kushner does not see a thriving and vibrant culture whose history coincides with the rise of the pyramids. Rather, he sees only what Israel is creating with American weapons: a flattened ruin on a prime piece of coastland – a beachfront parking lot ready for redevelopment. In this economic fantasy, the people and politics of Gaza are a simple distraction from the opportunity to profit."

Postwar Gaza authority potentially led by Tony Blair ‘would sideline Palestinians’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/29/postwar-gaza-authority-gita-tony-blair
Draft plan’s critics say it hands power to international figures and splits Gaza from Palestinian Authority in West Bank

I think I like John Daysh,
I don't agree with everything he says and thinks, but he seems to value the truth, and he sure is effective at making you look foolish mhaze, and you don't really bring much to the table other than slagging everyone else off tbh.

I think John Daysh is a wind-up bobble head doll with interchangeable dresses.

Thanks, AC.

You're ability to say something complimentary to someone you often disagree with is consistent with the good-faith debating approach you always take.

By the way, I wonder if we ever bumped into each other jetty jumping and Wellington Point. I'd go as a teenager in the mid-90s at low tide so the jump was as high as possible, but stopped after feeling how sharp the stuff at the bottom was.

I grew up in Cleveland.
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Thank you too, CM.

That you - someone who offers moral support to devastated arguments - felt compelled to poke your head in and attempt to negate what AC had said is truly humbling.

Kudos.