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Immigration: An Example Australia Should Heed

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Unlike Labor (and the other diminishing mob) in Australia, Keir Starmer, UK's Labour PM is either starting to listen to the electorate or he has developed a brain - again unlike the Australian thick-as-mince leaders - and seen what a mess mass immigration and multiculturalism has made of Britain.

“We risk becoming an island of strangers”, says Starmer of the UK.

A white paper has been published indicating that care workers could no longer be recruited from overseas; migrants would have to wait 10 years to apply for settlement instead of the current 5 years; adult dependents would need to have basic English skills, and a tax on universities earning income from foreign students could also be introduced.

Rather than rabbiting on about the economic “benefits” of immigration, Starmer says that mass immigration has done “incalculable damage” to his country's economy.

He has received opposition even from within his own party, but unlike our pansies, he is prepared to say what he thinks is best for the country, not himself and the self-serving vote scrabblers just wanting to get elected.

Further to his apparent ability to learn and change, Starmer is also thinking about introducing a version of the Rwandan-style plan for illegal arrivals that he criticised the Tories for when they wanted to introduce it. He might know how to get around the non-elected activist judges, aloof from the realities of life, who interfered with democracy last time.

Starmer’s ideas are quite novel among career politicians, particularly in Australia, where we take in more immigrants per capita than any other country, including the UK.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 18 May 2025 10:11:07 AM
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Starter might be getting the right idea but there's no hope Albo & Co will give up their voter base for the sake of this Nation ! If they were capable of seeing where their policies are leading Australia they'd put a stop to it all yesterday !
Like so many in other Western Nations, Australia's Woke & leftists too have no concept of foresight ! To them history is something to be reinvented rather than to learn from.
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 18 May 2025 7:10:55 PM
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A common complaint that many make is that some cities in Britain are
becoming very similar to Middle Eastern cities.
Eventually the whole country will be a cold Palestine.
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 18 May 2025 11:16:18 PM
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We know what the UK has become through unwise immigration. We know why even a left-wing PM is now concerned about it.

The question is, will Australia wait until things are as bad as they are in the UK, or will we learn from others' obvious mistakes.

My guess is no. Australia has become very peculiar place, where the political class, and some of the people, think that we are "different", and that the same unwise immigration policies and "diversity" won't have the same effects on us as they clearly have on other Western countries soon to be Third World countries because they have imported Third World cultures, unesessarily and stupidly.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 19 May 2025 8:59:43 AM
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Immediate post WW2 migrants came here to find a new & better life as Australians. Immediate post Whitlam migrants came here to find an easy life & to conform Australians to suit these pretend multiculturals which resulted in the symbiosis being forced to support welfare parasitism.
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 19 May 2025 10:34:51 AM
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The problem in Germany is similar to France and the UK.
It has caused the emergence of a new party which has grown.
It is the Alternative for Germany.
They are now the largest party but are still a minority.
Their plan is to deport all the illegal immigrants including
those "invited" by PM Mercele.
Can we be so silly as to follow those European countries
about to go through that painful operation ?
Why has it happened, even today another example from the US.
It has become just too much for the average Joe Blow.
Posted by Bezza, Thursday, 22 May 2025 6:51:15 PM
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According to Nation First's George Christensen, the Albanese government’s immigration program is not about the economy but votes for Labor.

1.15 immigrants during the Albanese regime so far. Nothing to do with the economy, skill shortages or “building the nation”. It's been all about “locking in future Labor votes.

Indian-Australians now make up the largest migrant group, and their strong support for Labor makes them a political asset.

Mass citizenship ceremonies were deliberately held in marginal seats before voter enrolment deadlines to maximise electoral gain.

Australia’s infrastructure is buckling under the pressure, but Labor keeps pushing migration to tilt the vote.

It's electoral manipulation dressed up as multicultural progress.

Labor is definitely importing its voters.

Christensen reminds us of the “sprint” to enrol 12,500 new citizens before the cut off date for the 2025 election, referring to it as “ethnic gerrymandering”.

While Albanese’s Socialist counterpart in the UK is trying to stop lunatic levels of immigration, he is revving up Australia's: replacing the population to drag the country into total socialism and, eventually, turn it into a Third World country, where productivity is stagnant, infrastructure is overwhelmed, housing prices are exploding.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 23 May 2025 10:17:01 AM
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The Centre for Independent Studies in October 2024, put out a paper entitled ‘The Future of Multiculturalism in Australia. They made their first mistake in the first sentence: “ …in return for the citizen being free to maintain private cultural and religious traditions, the state expects observance of our norms and laws”.

The state does not expect anything from unsuitable immigrants except for their use as economic fodder. The immigrants are free to bring their ancient hatreds and dark-age cultures with them, and stick to them, in ghettos. The hatreds and Anti-Semitism of many of them are getting worse. They are trying to “globalise the intifada” under protection of multiculturalism.

Of course, not all immigrants are of the above variety: but many of them just want to maintain foreign lifestyles, while getting much more money and benefits from a Western society they will never be properly part of. And the “state” encourages them to do so. Australia is now ‘an island of strangers’, just as the UK Prime Minister has belatedly realised that his country is. It's worse here, because we take in more foreigners per capita than the UK or any other country. And, of course, our politicians will never admit to their mistakes as Starmer has.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 8:20:16 AM
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Multiculturalism in Australia has encouraged cultural separatism and helped fan hostility between different sections of the community. Diversity, far from “strengthening” us as its evil architects claim, is tearing us apart. The Islamic division “openly and directly” is now challenging our legal and social norms, as they are in all countries that have imported them.

“Diversity is now being deployed not only to assault any Australian norms with which it is deemed to conflict, but also to foment conflict between Australia’s ethnic communities”.

Individual rights have been replaced with group rights.

Even commentator Paul Kelly, hardly a “hard right” individual, believes that: “Australian multiculturalism has fallen victim to a self-congratulating complacency and a dramatic shift in progressive ideology”. And, “Group rights become the new mantra, weakening the power of national harmony”.

Nevertheless, we are told that a majority still approve of multiculturalism, showing just how backward and behind the times Australians are, and why their country is cactus.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 8:54:32 AM
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ttbn,
Correct twice ! When Australia is converted to a suburb of India, Albo will grab his money & go home to Italy !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 31 May 2025 5:20:07 AM
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If you think this is all a simple discussion on how we
should all be nice and accommodating;
I suggest to you to look to Brussels.
All very nice place to visit wasn't it ?
Well it was until now, you all need to read this;

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/21662/brussels-crisis

Signs of this is visible in the UK and Germany.
Early signs are viable here.
Take the politically correct blindfolds off !
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 10:11:49 PM
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Indyvidual,

Yes. Just like other despots who have fled to other countries where they were given asylum after they had wrecked or allowed their countries to be taken over. I wonder which country would take Albanese. It wouldn't be Italy. Their politics are the opposite to his.

On immigration in general, any predominantly Anglo/Saxon/Celtic/European country that imports Third World immigrants is dooming itself to become part of the Third World.

Bezza,

Yes there are many overseas examples of how to ruin your country; but our political class is too arrogant and stupid to take notice. Unfortunately, too many ordinary Australians are the same, according to the election result.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 11:18:32 PM
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Immigration must have a reciprocal arrangement ! I an Australian can't live in China or India or wherever they would want to start a new life then no-one from such countries should be allowed to live here permanently !
There are some really beautiful so-called third world countries that could be turned into first world by migrants from western countries ! This would solve more problems than the present situation can dream up ! If the Un were to be staffed by decent people this could become a reality !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 5 June 2025 7:22:26 AM
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Since being elected, productivity has fallen sharply under the Albanese government. Productivity fell by 3.21 per cent between the June quarter of 2022 and the March quarter of 2025.

The Productivity Commission noted that declining access to capital has been one of the key factors weighing down Australia’s labour productivity, and the recent influx of migrants has been a key factor in this phenomenon.

Since the June 2022 quarter, Australia’s GDP per capita has declined by 1.67 per cent, while the population has grown by 5.9 per cent.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 5 June 2025 8:34:40 AM
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Donald Trump's immigration procedures are another example Australia should heed. He has banned from entering the US, anyone from Afghanistan, Haiti, Iran, Sudan and Yemen. People from 7 other Muslim majority countries will be subjected to restrictions. People who could jeopardise America are not welcome anymore.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 5 June 2025 11:27:03 AM
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I have not seen recent publication on crime/nationality
stats but with immigration data and criminal records it
must be pretty easy to generate good statistics.
We did not have a Middle Eastern Crime Squad for Fun.
From what I read it was mainly Lebanese aimed.
Many of the shootings in SW Sydney did involve Lebanese.
I think Yuyutsu may be able to comment.
Posted by Bezza, Thursday, 5 June 2025 11:33:02 PM
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I'm still waiting for our defenders of multiculturalism as to how many ethnicities are manning the offices of Immigration & Border etc. & which ethnicity represents the largest component.
Are these people really interested in keeping Australia "multicultural" ? My observations tell me that that is not the case & it is becoming quite evident that one particular ethnicity is on a long-term plan to fast-track into a monoculture of their background.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 6 June 2025 7:53:23 AM
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Brits look like becoming a minority in their own country within 40 years. How long before we become a minority in Australia? We take in more immigrants per capita than the UK does. Our voting system doesn't allow us to replace the uniparty, but the uniparty can replace the population.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 June 2025 8:39:02 AM
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Thankfully we are unlike America in that children born in the US to non-citizens are automatically classed as citizens. Trump, trying to deport illegals is being frustrated by the courts because while the illegals have to go, their children can stay - even if it is on their lonesome.

So what! Take your kids with you. This ‘wanna stay, drop a kid’ lurk is all part of the illegal entry scam.

There have been moves to abolish birth-right citizenship but, you guessed it, blocked by courts.

If Donald Trump is the “dictator” he is said to be, how come he can be overruled by left-wing judges.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 June 2025 9:34:20 AM
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That’s not the clever contradiction you think it is, ttbn.

//If Donald Trump is the “dictator” he is said to be, how come he can be overruled by left-wing judges.//

No one claiming Trump has authoritarian tendencies ever said he’s unbound by law - just that he keeps trying to push past it. The reason courts blocked things like the Muslim ban or birthright citizenship changes isn’t because they’re “left-wing.” It’s because those moves clashed with long-standing, clearly established laws.

The 14th Amendment guarantees birthright citizenship. That’s been settled for over a century. You can’t just tear it up with an executive order, no matter how many caps-lock tweets you fire off.

And let's not forget: Trump stacked the judiciary with hundreds of conservative judges - including a third of the Supreme Court. If even they couldn't make his more extreme ideas fly, maybe - just maybe - it wasn’t because of some activist conspiracy, but because what he was pushing was legally and constitutionally broken.

Being stopped by the courts isn’t proof he wasn’t acting like a dictator. It’s proof the guardrails still held. Just barely.
Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 6 June 2025 10:52:12 AM
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A Whitehouse staffer has referred to the interfering judges as “15 Crazy Communists”. Whether they are really commos or he is indulging in name-calling, we have to realise that what used to be just left-wing is now definitely organised Socialism, organised Socialism could now have become fair dinkum Communism, whether membership cards are carried or not.

He'll, Xi Jinping has said that he likes the way Albanese does things, and that all Westerners should be like him. Embarrassing, to say the least. Albanese often makes apologies for Chinese Communist actions, so maybe ….?
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 June 2025 11:22:08 AM
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ttbn,

So now we’ve gone from “left-wing judges” to “crazy communists” - based on an unnamed White House staffer and a vague quote from Xi Jinping. This is the kind of argument that doesn’t need evidence, just vibes.

Let’s be clear: judges are bound by the law, not party memberships. If they block a policy, it's because it clashes with established legal principles, not because they all secretly report to Beijing. The idea that upholding the 14th Amendment or due process rights makes someone a “communist” says more about your definition of communism than theirs.

And as for Xi “liking” Albanese - if you’re going to guilt people by association, you’ll need to explain Trump’s love letters to Kim Jong-un and his constant praise for authoritarian leaders. Or does admiration only count as “embarrassing” when it suits the narrative?

This isn’t analysis. It’s Cold War cosplay dressed up as patriotism.
Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 6 June 2025 12:56:47 PM
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Immigration is no longer serving the interests of Australia:

. Of the 205,000 foreigners here on temporary skilled work visas, only 3% have building skills.
. More than 2.5 million in Australia are on temporary work visas.
. Only powerful vested interests, tertiary education, and big business, and immigrants themselves are benefiting.
. Instead of prospering from immigration, we are becoming poorer.
. Immigrants from the Middle East and Africa are a net drain on the economy.
. International student numbers have increased by 70% since 2022.
. There are 380,000 ex-students on bridging visas while they appeal to be allowed to stay.
. Up to March this year, 336,100 migrants had already exceeded the government's budget forecast for the entire year 2025.

Sheer economic and cultural destruction.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 June 2025 2:02:13 PM
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Of the couple of million migrants imported in recent years, there were not many tradesmen, builders, electricians or plumbers among them.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 June 2025 6:08:16 PM
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In the UK you are now an “extremist” if you oppose mass immigration. That's official! The government ‘Prevent’ program is being used to silence dissent and protect its collapsing multicultural agenda.

This makes PM Starmer a terrorist following his becoming-an-island-of-strangers speech. Not to mention the Home Secretary, who said migrants “need to speak English” to live in the UK. And, the Opposition Chancellor who said, “Excessive, uncontrolled migration threatens to cannibalise the compassion of the British public.”

So far, we haven't reached the same level of madness as the UK, where the most popular boys name is Muhammad, and imports are committing 3.5 times more crimes than the Brits themselves.

‘Prevent’ was started to neutralise real terrorists. Obviously, they have failed, so they are inventing new ones, whom they figure will stop protesting out of fear - unlike the real thing.

Hence Farage’s Reform Party. The lunacy will eventually come here: so, with the Liberals finished, we had better start looking to create our own Reform party.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 8 June 2025 2:06:15 PM
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While Albanese refuses to deport visa overstayers and foreigners who bear ill will to Australia, he blocks a visa for Israeli Hillel Fuld. No reasons given, so it has to be down to Albanese’s anti-Israel attitude.

Boof Burke is ‘looking into’ because it comes under his portfolio, but Albanese is supposed to be the boss, and he is the one who should be dealing with it, the gutless wonder. Loves the big bucks, but won't take the responsibility.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 9:25:10 AM
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Fuld has requested entry on an American passport, so this will go down well for Albanese if he ever runs into Donald Trump face to face. Australians can no longer avoid the fact that the Albanese government is anti-Israel and, almost certainly, anti-Semitic. And, the way they are pissing off America, anti-American.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 9:48:08 AM
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183 illegals in 10 boats have arrived in Australia this financial year. The MSM is apparently co-operating to keep it quiet. When asked about it, Tony Burke declined to comment.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 14 June 2025 8:44:46 AM
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