What a disgraceful and embarrassing joke the Albanese government is, rejecting the US/UK invitation to join in accelerating nuclear energy development, preferring to continue to ruin Australia with the lie that we will become a “renewable energy superpower”.

Coal is still the cheapest way to produce electricity; but the alternative government is also hell bent on unachievable net zero: the Coalition is equally ignorant and childish in believing the carbon dioxide fairy tale, so we are not going back to coal. With both idiot parties believing in mumbo-jumbo, and clearly not for turning, nuclear power is the only choice for reliable, best-priced electricity.

Australia is now the only nation remaining on the renewable energy cart.

Believing in the renewable energy fantasy is the new socialism ttbn.

Fester

More a replacement for religion some say.

If you want a highly amusing example of self-inflicted embarrassment, an Australian female delegate to Cop29 started her talk by saying that, even though she was not on Australian soil, she would like pay her respects to Aborigines past, present and whatever the rest of the palaver is. I kid you not. I'm sorry that I can't show you where to look and laugh. It probably won't appear in the main stream media.

Fester

More a replacement for religion some say.

If you want a highly amusing example self-inflicted embarrassment, an Australian female delegate to Cop29 started her talk by saying that, even though she was not on Australian soil, she would like pay her respects to Aborigines past, present and whatever the rest of the palaver is. I kid you not. I'm sorry that I can't show you where to look and laugh. It probably won't appear in the main stream media.

The energy “cart” referred to above has grown into a wagon according to economist Judith Sloan. And, the wheels could be falling off it, she thinks. She also believes that the whole “ net zero edifice” was trembling before the Trump election, but now ….?

Trump will ditch America's ties to the Paris Agreement, again, and he won't be looking kindly on allies like Australia wrecking their economies with climate nonsense, and thinking that he will bail them out.

It will likely be on Sky ttbn. I have to endure another welcome to country tomorrow. I was hoping that such things would be denied to me for voting no, but no such luck unfortunately.

I just pray that the Dutton Govt will show more sense next year !

At COP29 the greens/vegans are making a big thing about how we should
stop eating meat.
There was a video on last night at Cop29 which showed the crowds around
the hamburger and sausage food bars, then they panned to the vegan bar.
There were only a few lonely souls there.
More hypocrites !

Indyvidual

While anyone would be better than Albanese, we can't forget that it was the Coalition that signed us up to Net Zero in the first place; and Dutton still supports Net Zero by advocating nuclear power. Nuclear power is OK, but he keeps saying he wants it just because it's a ‘clean’ way to Net Zero.

Dutton believes the same myth about carbon dioxide or, rather that the 3% man made carbon dioxide causes climate change, myth.

Frankly, I think the Coalition, which is riddled with wets, is still thinking that it can rely just on the appalling incompetence of lying-Labor to get themselves elected. I believe that their low first preference vote last election shows that to be untrue. It's my guess that both parties will get lower first preferences next year. They are in lockstep on huge immigration, digital ID, meddling with family matters, and they still have their own censorship plan on the books.

We, the voters, have to remind politicians that they are our servants, not our masters. Hopefully, the majority of Australians, who don't say much until they vote, will do what the American did to woke/Left dictators.

Baz,

Yes. A glaring example of the privileged not doing what they tell the rest of us we should be doing. Fortunately, most of us still eat what we want to eat.

I'm sick of voting for parties and people and would rather just vote on the issues themselves.
Although many parties hold positions on issues that I prefer over the others, at the same time pretty much all the parties hold positions on issues that make me feel like the party itself is completely unelectable.

Off topic, I will say one good thing about the current Coalition: they are down on Labor’s plan to rob the Future Fund. As it's 'father' Peter Costello said, it is not a political slush fund.

The Albanese government is now so arrogant it proudly announces that it's going to increase inflation-causing spending, stealing our money, bankrupting the country.

This is the worst government in my lifetime, and it will probably go down in history as the worst ever. Elon Musk, who they also want to rob by fining him (although how they would be able to do that to an American company with Trump in charge remains to be seen) is right when he refers to the Albanese government as FASCIST.

From what I hear, the government is spending $250 a night on any accommodation it can find - from housing women and kids from situations of domestic violence, to homeless junkies.
These people are staying in $250 a night accommodation for months at a time, sometimes even a year or more.
Also people that repeatedly trash housing commission houses aren't being kicked out to make way for more deserving people in need.

Meanwhile, local primary school kids are being moved out of classrooms because their own school fundraising efforts aren't enough to pay for fixing water leaks and air conditioner repairs.

We sent a billion worth of aid to Ukraine, billions in aid to the pacific, 400 billion of protection money to the US for stupid submarines that we wont even own and we can't even take care of our own kids.

We tie ourselves to defence purchases, maintenence and foreign policy of a nation that wants war with our largest trading partner, and one side of our democracy is akin to a Zionist occupied government.

This country isn't all that lucky anymore, it sucks.
Look around the world, look what democracy is now universally
'nations run by idiots'
'client politicians'

Hello - BEST BEFORE DATE ?

The latest insanity is the Defence Net Zero Strategy. Renewable energy for electric tanks anyone?

Look it up to see what a bunch of wackjobs are running this country.

The above is what you get when a bunch of ignorant Old Farts come together to cry collectively in their beer about issues they know diddly squat about. Pissing in the wind fellas, no ones listening, the worlds move on and left your mob behind.

Hi Paul,

Autocracy is top down. Democracy is bottom up. We all have opinions and should be free to express them. I think Albo betrayed the democratic process by dismissing the referendum result as invalid because of misinformation and disinformation. Passing the mad bill would have made Australia less democratic by silencing the plebs. No problem for autocratic Albo, but a polly embracing democracy would realise that expressing an opinion is not their right alone.

Hi Fester,

The Nuclear power proposal by Dutton will at best provide 4% of Australia's requirements in 20 years time. Where will the other 96% come from?

Fester

Keep the Trump landslide in mind. Everything that the Left and the mainstream stream media, and the polls, said about Trump, and how the Democrats were going to win, turned out to be utter rubbish. Trump rocked in. The usual suspects did not, do not, have a clue what most voters think, nor whom they intend to vote for.

The same thing can happen here. We don't have a Trump, we do have people other than the truly evil and destructive Albanese New Communists.

There are only a handful of posters on OLO, including two far Left lunatics. In the real Australia, there are 18 million plus voters waiting to cast their votes sometime next year.

They will decide the future of Australian politics over the next three years, and they will keep doing it every three years. Nothing will be decided by the opinions of half a dozen posters no matter how wise or how stupid their opinions are.

It seems that the M.A.D Bill is cactus.

https://youtu.be/JrKLRM0Nevs?si=dsOK-15XCOQgCJ-y

Cop29 showed that the Albanese government is up the creek on its own on nuclear power. Albanese Labor has been exposed internationally as a joke.

Even countries like Turkey and Romania are rushing to build reactors; those already with them are increasing the number.

Australia is not just physically isolated: it is also isolated from common sense, thanks to Albanese's ultra-Left government.

Hi ttbn,

People have all manner of opinions about things. Having a particular opinion about one thing or another doesn't define you as evil. I think the democrats learned that lesson again when Biden referred to Trump supporters as garbage. Having the freedom to express a range of opinions is a foundation of a healthy democracy.

Hi Paul,

You make your claim about nuclear based on a twenty year prediction. According to Adi Paterson, with current technology the build time for a nuclear power station is six to eight years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSfURlFZwmM

If wind and solar worked I would be all for it, but it has a number of issues:

-a generating infrastructure capable of producing about seven times the average power demand

-storage infrastructure, which in the case of pumped hydro requires yet more generating infrastructure

-transmission infrastructure capable of carrying multiples of the average power demand

-massive destruction of farmland and native vegetation to build wind and solar farms

-a generating infrastructure which is vulnerable to weather and malicious attack, and leaves Australia dependent on China

-the need to have 100% of average power demand backed up with gas generation

All of these things make wind and solar far more complicated and expensive than nuclear, as well as compromising our national security.

If South Australia ever works (power costs twice as much there already) I might change my mind, but I fear that Broken Hill's experience is the likely outcome from pursuing the wind and solar con.

Nobody wants to say ta ta to the M.A.D Bill?

Yes ttbn, pleased about that.
Still worried about age verification for social media.

Argentina will use AI to ‘predict future crimes’ but experts worry for citizens’ rights
http://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/01/argentina-ai-predicting-future-crimes-citizen-rights

One post saying the wrong thing here and there isn't so much the problem.
(It is in the UK, they've been cleaning jails out to make way for social media rule-breakers)
- The bigger issue is that they are going to start classifying people based on all the data they can collect about their entire lives.

AC

Yes. It seems that the under 16 law means that everyone who uses social media will need a digital ID to prove that they are over 16.

They say that the ID won't be compulsory, but who believes them? What else will be put on their list that needs ID? Unlike the M.A.D Bill, digital ID has the support of the Opposition.

They've made it so that it's quite hard to even get an ABN without a Digital ID now.
They bring in new standards quietly, and then suddenly you find out that you can't do what you need to do if you don't jump through the hoops and follow the new rules.

"What else will be put on their list that needs ID?"

Not sure it's entirely the right question, it might be better to ask:
'Where are they headed with all of this?'

My thoughts, 'fusion centres'
Fusion Center Concept Evolves with Streamlined Data Sharing
http://www.esri.com/about/newsroom/blog/fusion-center-streamlined-data-sharing/

Your whole entire life, needs to be neatly organised and detailed for someone else in front of a computer somewhere to easily access.
- And they want everything at their fingertips...

To the point a drone could fly overhead and identify you and 100 other people with facial recognition, bring up everyones details in an instant,
Fusing all your personal data into a single accessible interface,
Your spending habits, friends, family, co-workers, places you go, hobbies, health records, phone records, political leanings,... etc.
Analyse it with AI.

The direction would seem kind of logical from a security viewpoint.

'We're doing this to keep you safe'.

The documetary The Cost of Net Zero wich has been shown on Sky News
three times so far can be downloaded at skynews.net.au and click on
documentaries.
No matter what your opinion you will find it very interesting.
It runs for an hour but I am sure that Chris Bowen will say Oh its from
"Sky After Dark".
I think a first year electrical apprentice will understand why solar
and wind cannot work.
Unfortunately the government is not made up of 1st year apprentices.
I am certain that the political controllers in the Labour Party are
indeed very ignorant people technically.
What the hell are the ETU people doing, just sniveling on their knees ?
The small number of nukes that the opposition proposes is just the start.
Because we have wasted so much time we have a big hole in supply coming
up which will have to be filled by keeping all coal stations going
no matter what the cost until replacement nukes are built.
We may need to build some gas plants.
Stupid Bowen insists on knowing the cost of nukes.
How stupid can he be, to expect a customer to tell a contractor what
he expects the tender to be.
Has he never heard of competitive tendering ?

Gawd help us no wonder we are in trouble !

Hi Bazz,

Clive Palmer wanted to build a high efficiency coal fired plant in Queensland but got knocked back. I don't think that many renewable energy advocates realize the relationship between cheap energy and living standards.

The government should pull its snout out of the energy market, drop the stupid ban on nuclear, and allow a competitive market to produce what is best and most economical. Government has very few roles to play: defence being the most important, and the one they should be concentrating on right now. Leave business and commerce to the private sector which knows more about getting best-priced energy - if it is left alone to do it. Making money is what they are about; wasting money is what left-wing governments are about.

'Reachout' a mental health service for 14-25 year olds, and other youth organisations, have warned against Big Brother's ban on under 16s accessing social media. Social media is a source of help for many young people.

But, of course, Albanese's new communism is not interested in what experts say; they operate by bullying (the very thing they claim to be against) and an authoritarian sledge-hammer to coerce and control people from a very young age, whether it's during kids' private leisure time or in the re-education camps that make up the laughable state education system.

Removed ‘Assistant Minister for “the” Republic’ (who was he assisting?) Matt Thistlethwhaite, has told SkyNews that Labor has done a lot more than any government over the past 20 years.

I heartily agree. His government has done more than any government to bugger up Australia for a lot more than 20 years. Even Whitlam was never this bad.

Further, Thistlethwaite says that the Coalition and - the Greens, would you believe - are stopping them from doing more. Just as well!

"Poor" countries who had jetted into Cop29 and spent Lord knows much of their "poor" countries' money to do so, were disappointed by the $460 billion that was voted for them to "fight" the fake climate emergency. They got the hump, and strutted out like spoilt, self-entitled children.

Still on Thistlethwaite, and what Labor is doing (to us) let's go back to a really bad guy of Labor politics, Bert Evatt, who died 60 years ago and did a lot of damage before that.

When I see Albanese wearing those cheap looking glasses and a felt hat, I am reminded of 'Doc' Evatt.

I agree, get what your given or get nothing.

The COP 20 conference has highlighted the transfer of wealth from our
developed countries to the less wealthy countries.
China as an undeveloped country has come in for a lot of flack because
it stands at the head of the queue with its hand out.
However in fairness to China I would like to draw attention to
historical practice.
For centuries or indeed thousands of years China has always been
surrounded by vassal states who have paid tribute to China and China
would like to reinstitute that system. We can see this system in use
in the South China Sea. The Phillipine, Vietnam and Indonesia are
subject to this historic system.
These vassal states were usually ruled by Handsome Boys who could be
relied to do the right thing.

There won't be any money to spend, which is likely why Jim wants to repurpose the Future fund. Whether people are good or bad and whether it relates to opinions they have has never been relevant. Good or bad, the hardship that comes from incompetence is identical.

To say repurpose the future fund is to make the future fund more able to aid projects in Australia. As is billions are invested in overseas projects.
Persons put deliberate slants on what is proposed rather than sticking to the script. [misinformation]
Reading something into something that is not proposed is wilful and not free speech. [lies]

The future fund that Jimbo wants to plunder was originally - and probably still is - to ensure that there was money to cover superannuation for retiring public servants and military personnel; it was certainly not for grubby politicians to get their grubby little hands on for things that governments are not supposed to be doing anyway.

Fester is right. If we don't rid ourselves of these new communists next year, there will be no money left.

While Jimbo boyishly smirks about surplus and all the good stuff that the government has done - without us noticing as we struggle with what they have done to us - Australia's per capita GDP has declined for 6 consecutive quarters. It's a “hidden recession” according to economists.

Household disposable income has dropped like a stone. ‘The Australian’ has disclosed that we are suffering the worst decline in living standards since the 1950s. Our living standards have dropped more than any other country in the world, according to eminent economist Chris Richardson. Productivity is “as sick as a dog”, he says. And it's to do with mass immigration, the thing neither side of politics has ever put up as a policy, pre-elections. Mad, policy-free mass immigration keeps making individual Australian’s lives worse and worse.

I think most people have forgotten that the two surpluses that the
Treasurer keeps preening about are fake surpluses generated by transferring
the Future Fund into the governments budget.
Probably China has got its eyes on the Future fund as good source of
vassal state funds for an undeveloped country like China.
Could this be why the Handsome Boy arranged the transfer in the first place ?

The AU govt, has no access to AU Futures fund. Costello is futures fund governor. And has been since day one. Au govt can only ask for considerations as to possible investments on AU projects if they bring in the appropriate interest amounts. Costello has been a magician in investments for the futures fund and has grown exponentially since it's its beginning.
When media reports on political stories it's 90% misinformation and the rest is news maybe.

"The AU govt, has no access to AU Futures fund"

Yeah, but Jimbo wants to direct the FF to invest in Blackout Bowen's wind and solar Nirvana. I'd agree with the observation that Albo has presided over a government making a series of horrible decisions since losing the voice. Thank goodness the MAD bill got canned. Hitler gained a lot of control in Germany after passing laws to control misinformation, and the Stasi got established after the East German government was concerned about harm from misinformation and disinformation. I guess that cult leader Albo will just have to stay a wannabee.

Chris Minns asks Sydney residents to keep washing machines off as heatwave nears peak
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/27/heatwave-bom-weather-forecast-sydney-power-outage-blackouts-temperature
'Temperatures climb towards 40C in the city’s west amid calls to cut back on power usage between 3pm and 8pm'

- Hand washing only between 3pm and 8pm.
They're not going to win Australias 'most liveable city' anytime soon.
No feces in the river please.

You only have to see sky news to know what mis and dis is. Probably the jockers here get their one eyed info from. Big headlines no substance.
If you reckon Albo is communist you need to look at china. Upstanding citizens no doubt.
What happened to spuds nukes. Has that fallen in the far right rubbish bin. SMR;s do not stack up to the cost / MwH produced plus refuelling four times / year.
Isn,t it amazing how Dutton has cooled his rhetoric lately. No nukes only dribble, siding with Albo. He has devils on both shoulders. I think he has lost his mojo.
We are still battling with NBN after Abbotts cleaver Back-out.
Scomo containing wage growth for 9 years another excellent hard right move. Maxed out our credit card another brilliant move.
AU GDP topping 1.8 trillion is excellent after 9 years of depression. We had 1 trillion GDP in 2012. We are on track for 3 trillion for end of 2026.

Unfortunately Australians are being lied to about the cost and reliability of the wind and solar transition.

https://www.cis.org.au/commentary/video/is-australia-building-the-lowest-cost-energy-system/

I have a query for which I do not know the answer.
There has been a lot of talk about the generation system and its need
for inertia. I know what they are referring to, it is the rotating mass in conventional steam turbine alternators.
This helps to iron out small variations in rotation rate and so small
changes in frequency away fro 50 cycles per second are resisted..
This problem arises because solar panels and indeed wind turbines
produce Direct Current and so cannot knudge other generators to adjust
their speed.
I cannot see why the choppers that change the DC into AC cannot drive
other choppers into phase locked frequency as they all should be crystal locked ?
It really puzzles me.
onto 50 cycles.

This forum is a prime example how clueless people can pontificate on a subject they know absolutely nothing about, except for what they have seen on Sky After Dark, the ravings of a far right lunatic, or read in old man Murdoch's gutter press, or been "reliably" informed by the Dangerous Doctor Donald in America. An amazing bunch of ignorant fools they be.

Hi Paul,

I take the view that the reason we enjoy civilisation and technological development is because people have differing opinions and argue with one another.

We might be a bunch of stupid plebs here, but we have every right to think and argue about the civilization we are all a part of.

Hi Fester,

I was once reliably informed that 95% of human development is down to 5% of human kind, and 5% is the work of the other 95%. The observation is that the vast majority of people are basically followers and rely on a very small minority to provide the necessary leadership in all areas of human endeavor to advance the species. Basically if it wasn't for the 5% existing the other 95% would still be living in caves and fighting each other with sticks and stones. Nearly everything we do is based on learned experience from past generations.

The threat of blackouts this summer (barely believable in  21st. Century Australia) began when a Coalition government signed up to Net Zero. Blackout Bowen and the Albanese government are putting the finishing touches to the amazing stupidity. 

We are now being told that the relatively low summer temperatures of 30-32 degrees constitute a “heat wave” to fool us into using less electricity in case the now scarce resource isn't available.

That's in NSW. In SA, the energy minister is  calling for the recommissioning of two diesel generators before summer  so mistrustful of his  own government's ideology on electricity generation is he. SA is getting ready for another interconnector from NSW to keep  the dreaded  carbon dioxide out of the state. It's like letting  China use as much of Australia's  coal as possible while saying we are so good because of lower ( maybe) emissions. 

What a disgrace! 

Blackout Bowen is dishonestly claiming that electricity prices have fallen; using selective data to claim a 17.3% fall in prices over the September quarter. But ABS data shows that the ‘fall’ was due only to “massive federal and state governments” rebates. The Albanese government is using our money to help pay our bills sky-rocketing because of the government “transitioning” to expensive, unreliable wind and solar.

With the budget going into deficit next year, the government will be borrowing money to help pay for power bills they have caused to increase.

The average debt for households forced onto payment plans by rising electricity prices is $1,500.

MAD?

UK shuts down all solar panels in China: This material is so powerful that it shouldn’t exist
http://www.eldiario24.com/en/solar-panels-energy-record-china/5234/

"Oxford PV, an energy offshoot company of the University of Oxford, has set a new solar panel efficiency world record. The innovative perovskite-on-silicon tandem panel produced an output of 25% efficiency, which is a significant improvement on average figures being recorded in currently operating systems and a positive sign for the development of the renewable energy sector."

LONGi sets a new world record of 33.9% for the efficiency of crystalline silicon-perovskite tandem solar cells
http://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/10/24/longi-green-energy-sets-world-record-for-solar-module-efficiency-at-25-4/

"Xi’an, November 3, 2023-The world-leading solar technology company, LONGi Green Energy Technology Co., Ltd. (hereafter as "LONGi"), announced today that it has set a new world record of 33.9% for the efficiency of crystalline silicon-perovskite tandem solar cells. It is reported that the previous world record was 33.7% and conducted by King Abdullah University of Science & Technology (KAUST) in May this year."