ABC journalist Laura Tingle recently commented at the Sydney Writer's Festival stating that Australia is a 'racist country'.

“We are a racist country, let’s face it. We always have been, and it’s very depressing.”

The comments have triggered a fierce backlash from people right across Australia with people calling for the ABC to be defunded and for Laura Tingle to be sacked in her role on the ABC's 7.30 program.

We've seen though in recent times as the Gaza conflict comes to a head vile, antisemitic slogans spray painted on the wall of a Jewish school in Melbourne, alongside anti-Arab and Palestinian racism.

The Voice referendum last year led to a deluge of racism against First Nations people and COVID-19 saw a dramatic rise in anti-Asian racism also.

I would argue though a lot of people in Australia are not racist, very nice caring people. Laura Tingle has also undergone internal counselling at the ABC in terms of her conduct. Has Laura Tingle overstepped the mark here?

http://www.theguardian.com/media/article/2024/may/29/abc-reporter-laura-tingle-racist-country-comments-sydney-writers-festival-ntwnfb

This has been adequately dealt with in the media. It is just another boring and pointless exercise in futility.

The whole thing is futile because successive governments have in the past, and will continue to do so in the future, tolerated the use and abuse by the ABC of taxpayers' money to employ hard-Left activists like Tingle.

We do not need a public broadcaster; most Australians ignore it. But, as per usual in this Mickey Mouse country, what most Australians think is ignored by the political the spineless political class.

Good Morning Nathan,

I like Laura Tingle and have found her to usually be
softly spoken, having quite moderate views. I've not
witnessed her being controversial in the past so I'm
not sure what prompted her to make these comments.

I've watched her on the "Insiders" program many times
and her views have always been balanced.

Is Australia a racist country?

Our country's history clearly shows the patterns we followed.
From the White Australia Policy, to the treatment of our
Indigenous people, and the rise of Pauline Hanson. But then
on the other side of the coin - we have Mabo, Whitlam and
Lingiari, Keating's Redfern Speech, Kevin Rudd's Apology,
and the continued acknowledgements of "Welcome To Country."

Sweeping generalisations are not very productive. We need to
make allowances for individual differences. And we certainly
are a country in transition that's evolving. We used to be
British, only sunburnt. We've certainly come a long way. From
humble beginnings we've become a thriving, wealthy, modern
nation. People want to come here to live.

Whatever happens to Australia, we can be sure of one thing -
our history, rich, and colourful, is also filled with
heroism, as well as drama, and will live on into infinity

her views have always been balanced.
Foxy,
How'd you know ?

Hi Indyvidual,

She's always presented both sides of any issue.

Laura Tingle was absolutely correct. Australia is a racist country. To say other wise is to ignore the history of this country since white settlement - attempted genocide of the indigenous people, the treatment of Afghan camel workers, the treatment of Chinese during the gold rush, the White Australia policy, etc. etc. etc.

Of course she will be jumped on by the braying chorus of RWNJs whose only tactic is to disrupt social cohesion and stir up fear. (Just look at the fear generated during the recent Voice debacle.)

As for the ABC 'counseling' her, I want to know why hasn't David Speers been 'counseled' for his outrageous comments and bias while actually working for, and appearing on television.

It's about time the ABC grew some ballcocks and bit back. Unfortunately, that won't happen while the board is stacked with apologists who still take dictation from the Murdocracy.

ttbn,

<<This has been adequately dealt with in the media.>>

Yes of course it has in the minds of some in the media as they want her out. You only have to look at some of the comments in the mainstream media like The Australian, Sky News, Murdoch media, Ben Fordham on radio and others.

Sky News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFNM3Y7OxM0
Ben Fordham: http://www.2gb.com/abc-v-laura-tingle-host-pulled-up-over-racism-claims/
4BC Brisbane: http://www.2gb.com/podcast/laura-tingles-racism-rant-highlights-abc-bias/

These are just a few examples. Personally, I can only see the calls for her to resign continue to increase from so many sides in the media and by politicians, until she is pushed out from the ABC or resigns. I don't see this going away in that context.

I don't know where this will end up going, but I don't think she'll come out of it well at the end of the process.

To say other wise is to ignore the history of this country
Aries54,
It is one thing to view ignorance as racism & a totally other thing to criticise criticism of racism with the benefit of hindsight.
Much of the perceived racism is merely pointing at unpleasant fact which is opportunistically criticised as racism by the actual racists.
Of course there is racism, to say otherwise would be stupid after all, its instinct-based but what is stupid is to claim that Australia is a racist Nation. Only stupid racists claim that.
Many non-racists have developed a dislike for some, not all members of other races after experiences with members of another race. That is not racist, that is pointing out behavioural issues, not the ethnicity of someone behaving badly.
I think it's high time the racists are told to simply behave acceptable to others no matter which race !
I recall talking with a then future leader from PNG when I was still learning English when I used the N word. This man must have realised that I didn't know the implication of the word & he rather politely explained it to me. I apologised & he accepted & we continued talking for almost an hour. I have not used this word again. An opportunistic racist would have as they do now, made a big issue out of it.

https://x.com/EvaVlaar/status/1784264775574188371

When it's all boiled down, most Australians don't care what Tingle thinks and says - if they have even heard of her, that is.

Nor do they care whether Australia is/was a racist country. The word is just a lazy, pathetic form of abuse used by people who are no use to themselves or the country. The ABC and its activists wouldn't be missed if we had a government with the guts to remove the 1.2 billion dollars a year, and spend it on something useful.

It will be no surprise if some wankerdoodle comes up with the usual old lie that the ABC is the 'most trusted source of information'.

Total rubbish, of course, when only about 30% - and rapidly falling - of Australians bother themselves with the well and truly out of date broadcaster of bullsh-t and lies that they are forced to pay for.

The Australia Institute surveyed nationally representative
samples of Australians about the ABC in 2019 and 2020
including asking about trust in the ABC and support for
increasing the ABC's funding.

The results have been positive.

The Liberal Party's federal council motion to privatize
the ABC was opposed by 3 in five Australians.

Also when additional funding is associated with the ABC's
emergency role, support rises dramatically to 3 in 4
Australians (75%) in strong support.

It appears that despite some disclaimers -
the ABC and SBS do remain the most trusted news sources in
Australia. We're told that the majority of Australians
believe the ABC is doing "a good job" and fulfilling
its various charter obligations.

77% of respondents not only regard the ABC's "good job"
but of being distinctly Australian and being accurate
and impartial when reporting news and current affairs.

Criticisms of Laura Tingle have all the hallmarks of
a beat up.

The link given below tells us that:

"Tingle's comments were statements of her opinions,
clearly and obviously so. But they do not reflect on her
impartiality as a journalist."

"They were made informally as part of a panel discussion in
which immigration and race were canvassed. She was not doing
journalism. More over, Tingle was not there representing the
ABC or the 7.30 program."

"She was there because like all the other members of the
panel, she has experience in federal politics."

" The counter-argument is that in her persona she is
inseparable from her role as 7.30's chief political
correspondent. That is not reasonable."

"It would be to deny her an existence outside her job.
If she had been there as a representative of the ABC or of
the program, it would be different, but that was not the
position."

" Plenty of people might disagree with her, but that does
not provide a basis for accusing her of professional
misconduct."

http://theconversation.com/the-coverage-of-laura-tingles-comments-on-racism-is-a-textbook-beat-up-but-shes-not-in-the-wrong-231O51

Here's the link again:

http://theconversation.com/the-coverage-of-laura-tingles-comments-on-racism-is-a-textbook-beat-up-but-shes-not-in-the-wrong-231051

"I've watched her on the "Insiders" program many times and her views have always been balanced"

Balanced in terms of the ABC. That is they tell the story from the point of view of the left and for balance they tell the story from the point of view of the far-left. This is balance as far as the ABC is concerned.

http://youtu.be/K8y4Z-ZAhjw

This is a storm in a teacup. Everyone knows that the left considers Australia racist. Especially after the Voice failure where they salve their hurt by saying it was the result of racism rather than accept it was the result of their failed policies. They are determined to not learn from history. Then again its not really possible be a leftist without refusing to learn from history.

Is Australia a racist country? Well, define 'racist country'. Does it mean it contain some racists? Answer ...yes. Are a majority racist? Answer...no. Are our policies racist? Answer...absolutely no.

If the criteria is that it has a minority that are racist then every country on the planet is racist and the claim is without meaning in that context. But what people like Tingle want to get away with is the simple claim that, since they themselves aren't racist (in their mind) then anything that occurs that doesn't follow their think is definitionally racist.

Welcome to the ABC. We live with it. Tolerate it. Laugh at it.

There is no denying Australia has a very strong history of racism, starting with the Pommy invasion in 1788, and continuing right up to the present. Discrimination has been widespread particularly towards Aboriginal people, but also towards other minorities from different cultures and backgrounds, Asians, Continental Europeans, we had lots of droggo name for those fellas, people who eat garlic, The Irish, Gypsies, not to be confused with Gypos, Islanders, Kiwi's, Jews, Muslims, gays, lefties, short people, tall people skinny people, fat people, oh! how all those "fatties" have been discriminated against, people who watch the ABC, another minority, any other non white, part white or almost white person, I think almost white is grey, include them, plus women of course, Popeists yep, them as well. Actually anyone at all whose not some old fart, right wing conservative male very white Anglo, with one foot in the grave. That pretty well sums up whose been discriminated against over the past 200 plus years. You can work out which group hasn't been discriminated against, a very small minority, who with our track record of discriminating against minorities, and since they themselves are a small minority, they should also be discriminated against asap. I blame it all on 'Pig Iron' Bob, the founder of the Liberal party, who today are a small minority party led by bald headed people and you guessed it, they should therefore be discriminated against on two counts. Good on Lara Dingal, who is in a minority herself, the dingal's are a minority, that cannot be denied, and therefore they should be discriminated against. Oh! It feels great to be in the majority in this all embracing non-discriminatory nation of ours.... Australia.

"There is no denying Australia has a very strong history of racism,"

That Australia WAS racist (in the most benign sense) is undeniable. But the issue is whether it IS racist still.

People like Tingle et al treat it the same way as Christians treat original sinner. You were a sinner once, your ancestors were sinners, therefore you are a sinner. Australia was racist in the past, your ancestors were racist in the past, therefore you are still racist now.

To these 'thinkers', the stain (or what they think of as a stain) can never be erased. They don't want it to be erased. Its way to useful to their politics and way of life and self-esteem.

Why was the Voice lost - racism. Why do some aboriginals live in poverty - racism. Why is aboriginal domestic violence off the scale - racism. Why do the majority want to remove radical Islam from our streets and our immigration programme - racism.

Its their all-purpose go-to excuse for their own failures and their own virtual signalling.

Australia was racist. But my definition of the descriptor 'racist country' Australia is no longer a racist country.

Oh! It feels great to be in the majority
Paul1405,
That's why we need a change of Govt.

An increasing share of Australians agree that the
ABC's funding should be increased.

The Liberal Party's Federal Council's motion to privatize
the ABC is opposed by 3 in 5 Australians. Trust in the
ABC has increased dramatically since the question was
first asked in 2013. 77% of respondents to the Australia
Institute survey , which surveyed nationally representative
samples of Australians about the ABC in 2019 and 2020 about
trust and support for increasing funding - responded positively.

The consensus was that not only does the ABC do a good job
but it was seen as being accurate and impartial when
reporting news and current affairs.

Criticisms of Laura Tingle certainly have all the hallmarks
of a textbook beat up.

"That Australia WAS racist (in the most benign sense) is undeniable. But the issue is whether it IS racist still."

Australia is a place, a lump of dirt in the middle of the ocean.
- This lump of dirt does not have feelings or opinions but it does have certain ideals can be attached to it.

The question is not whether the lump of dirt itself is racist.
The question is whether or not some of the people in it are.
And the answer is yes of course there are.

And the source of the the conflict is in-between the opinions of people themselves as opposed to the ideals attached to said lump of dirt.

Some racism is outright 'hate for other races' that's wrong.
But some is borne from a sense of tribalism and nationalism, and friendly competition between nations, and differences in culture - as much as prejudices.
- This type of 'racism' isn't necessarily hostile, or without a form of legitimate basis.

Democracy and Nationalism say the people living here should get to have a say on who comes here.
Globalists use the conflict that comes from 'racism' to deny citizens the right to decide who comes into their country.

And if we have no right to decide who we wish to share it with, then it's not our country.
It's now owned by ideals and elite, not us.

Are some Australians racist, and if so is it because they hate foreigners ?
Or because they loved their country and they see it going down the toilet?
Are the indigenous racist, and especially moreso on every Australia day?
Whose to say.

"Australia is a place, a lump of dirt in the middle of the ocean."

Well apart from the inane semantics, Australia is a concept, a political construct.

As I said earlier, the phrase 'racist country' ought to be defined. And no one has. Personally I see it meaning a plurality of the constituents are racist and the policies of the nation are racist. Australia passes the test on both counts - we are not a racist country.

If OTOH you think it just means some of the people are racist, then every country on the planet is racist and the term 'racist country' has no meaning.

I recall back in the 1980 the returning Ambassador to Japan commented that he didn't know if Australia was a racist country but, having spent 5 years in Japan he knew we weren't the most racist country ie Japan is fall more racist than Australia. Likewise I spent a lot of time in Russia and can say with confidence that in terms of racism Russia's racism far exceeds Australia's.

Again the left and particular the smashed-avocado left that inhabits the ABC want Australia to be considered racist because it suits their purposes.

Foxy's poll is misleading. Coming from the Australia Institute, how could it be anything but misleading.

As usual 'Yes Minister' explained these things to the more gullible...
http://youtu.be/ahgjEjJkZks

We see this in the Australia institute poll. One of the first questions they asked was about the ABC's roll in emergency announcements - where the fires are, where the floods are etc. Of course, almost everyone is in favour of the ABC doing these things since they are one of the few organisations with the reach to warn all Australian's. So people like the ABC when it does this community service and would support the ABC getting more funding for that project.

But the pollsters leave out that nuance and simply tell you that people favour more funding. They don't tell you that they never asked about the bias in ABC opinion reporting, and leave the gullible (no name mind you but their initials are Foxy) to draw the wrong conclusions.

Happens all the time. When looking at polls you always ALWAYS need to read the actual questions asked....unless you want to be mislead in which case you do exactly what Foxy did.

One great thing about this forum, is when between all of us we're able to cut through all the crap.

Like just between the two of us mhaze our last comments:
- The stuff we just brought up, they wouldn't let us have that discussion on Q and A.

Our points wouldn't be tolerated to even be given a chance to be heard.
They don't want people to consider such things.

"As I said earlier, the phrase 'racist country' ought to be defined."
- Great suggestion, since we all argue about the topic constantly.
Except for one problem: Look up.
'They don't want people to consider such things'.
- If they did, they'd have been carrying on about it incessantly years ago.

The Australia Institute surveyed nationally representative
samples of Australians about the ABC in 2019 and 2020,
including asking about trust in the ABC, and support for
increasing or not the ABC's funding. It asked very specific
questions and gave the key results.

It should be noted that the Australia Institute conducts
independent research. It takes a bi-partisan approach to
research and it does not barrack for political parties.

______________________________________________________________________

Australia as a sovereign country has the right to determine
who does and doesn't enter and remain in this country. Our
Courts have affirmed this. It is clear that Australia has
the right to establish, administer, and enforce its
immigration policy and maintain national security.

Sovereignty however is not absolute. It doesn't mean that
nations can do whatever they want, whenever they want, to
whoever they want.

This would lead to a breakdown in international cooperation.

Australia as a sovereign nation has recognized the need
to respect certain obligations and rights. It wants to
maintain its position among the community of nations.

Australia has chosen to participate in the international
system of law and has signed and entered into
agreements-treaties, with other sovereign states.
It has agree to be bound by the International scheme of
rights and responsibilities that govern the way in which
sovereign states act.

Armchair Critic,

The ABC has had heaps of programs on racism in
Australia. I've seen quite a few including
questions being asked on Q and A.

It's interesting though - the ABC launched a review into
how it handles racism after Stan Grant exited after he said
he was subject to relentless racial abuse and was
unsupported by senior figures at the TV channel.

There's more at:

http://bandt.com.au/abc-launches-review-into-how-it-handles-racism-after-stan-grant-exits/

"The Australia Institute surveyed nationally representative
samples of Australians about the ABC in 2019 and 2020,
including asking about trust in the ABC, and support for
increasing or not the ABC's funding. It asked very specific
questions and gave the key results."

So, you're going to pretend they didn't preface the whole thing about the the ABC roll in emergency broadcasting.

"Respondents were then told that there is no specific funding for the ABC’s bushfire information, emergency broadcasts and alerts, and asked if they would support or oppose increased funding for the ABC to reflect its role in providing information in an emergency."

Head is sand again.

mhaze,

Goodness me.

You seem rather fixated on the Australia Institute
and the facts being presented. It seems that you're
itching for a continued argument.

I'm not interested and I am under no obligation to
make sense to you.

Try your personal attacks and diversions on someone else.

Foxy,

I'm not fixated on the Australia Institute. I gave up on them ever saying anything useful years ago.

I'm merely trying to educate the uneducable as to how polling can deceive the perpetually gullible.

Your welcome.

mhaze,

Yes indeed.

We have seen how things have panned out during elections.

I'm looking forward to the upcoming ones both here and in
the US.

While this pointless back and forth is going on, even hard Left Melbourne is deserting ABC radio. The ABC needs to be made an election issue; but nothing will happen while drones keep voting Coalition/Labor/Greens.

You get what you deserve when you are too lazy to use the preferential system, and allow the parties to tell you how to vote.

Fifty years of indoctrination can be gotten rid of by insisting on merit !

Nobody tells us how to vote as our election showed.

And predicting anything is risky at the best of times.

As for the ABC?

No matter how people feel about our national broadcaster -
most Australians want to keep it because it provides
essential coverage for national readers, city and
rural, and does so very well.

"The ABC has had heaps of programs on racism in
Australia. I've seen quite a few including
questions being asked on Q and A."
- And did someone cherrypick those questions which were allowed to be asked?

"Nobody tells us how to vote as our election showed."
- Nobody tells you how to vote, but you can't just vote for anyone.
You don't select the candidate, they are selected for you

Indy,

"Fifty years of indoctrination can be gotten rid of by insisting on merit!"

So you would give those despised "concrete jungle bunnies" of yours, something if you considered them to be "meritorious". But then how in your eyes could a black fella gain merit?

those despised "concrete jungle bunnies" of yours, something if you considered them to be "meritorious"
Paul1405,
Tens of thousands would definitely prove meritorious in comparison to your merits ! I suppose you're very lucky that the bureaudroids still use the Peter Principle !

Paul1405,
Are you E-Karen in real life ?

Armchair Critic,

Just a list of some of the ABC's programs on racism:

1) The School that tried to end racism.

2) You can't ask that

3) Racism - Hypocrisy and Hot Air

4) Uncle Jack Charles on Q and A.

5) Calling it Out.

And many 4 Corner programs.

Your criticism are not reasonable.

Your criticism are not reasonable.
Foxy,
Your defence of the unreasonable is what's not reasonable !

A racists attack on a group of Tawainise students in Melbourne by Anglo thugs has made the 6 o'clock news in Tawain. The world IS watching.

Indyvidual,

It's not a defence.

It's stating facts.

Whether you like it or not - the facts remain.

Laura Tingle's personal comments have certainly
triggered a fierce backlash ranging from outraged
calls for the ABC to be defunded, to demands for
Tingle to be sacked.

And so it naturally follows that the person who called
out racism is facing far more scrutiny than the issue
of racism in this country itself.

Our problem is that any discussions of racism tends to
focus on only the tip of the issue. We willfully
ignore the massive iceberg that lies underneath our
systemic and structural elements in our society.

Issues go unchallenged. We'll focus on vile anti-Semitic
slogans spraypainted on walls of Jewish schools. The war
in Gaza has prompted anti-Arab and Palestinian racism,
Islamophobia has reared its ugly head as has anti-
Semitism.

The Voice Referendum led a deluge of racism, as did the
COVID -19 pandemic which prompted anti-Asian racism.

Racism is embedded in our society. It continues to flourish.
People in positions of power should challenge racism and
send a powerful message.

In the case of the ABC - it should back Laura Tingle.
If we are to challenge racism in Australia journalists
must be free to call it out and media executives must
support them when they do.

This is the article Foxy plagiarised most of her last post from...

http://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/news/abc-chiefs-must-back-laura-tingle

She just can't help herself.

The article that Foxy pretended was her own thoughts, is written by the Race Discrimination Commissioner, someone whose whole career and financial status is dependent on asserting that racism is rampant.

I've often thought that our society would be much better if people like this had their power and financial rewards depending on results. eg you'll get paid minimum wage but a massive bonus is you manage to bring racism down by 5% per annum.

Then we'd sudden find that, instead of building up the level of racism, the Race Discrimination Commissioner would be writing articles about how successful they were in reducing racism. Utopia.

__________________________________________________________________

Still I can't help but notice that not a single soul here, while more than happy to pontificate on this racist country, has been able to define what a racist country is.

"A racists attack on a group of Tawainise students in Melbourne by Anglo thugs has made the 6 o'clock news in Tawain. The world IS watching."

1. It happened in Brisbane not Melbourne. Paul really is a dill.
2. There's no evidence the attackers were 'Anglo'

The world IS watching
Paul1405,
Yes, our world's watching your racism !

mhaze,

http://humanrights.gov.au/about/news/opinions/race-discrimination-commissioner-why-abc-chief-should-back-laura-tingle

This is the article I initially read and borrowed from. It also
appeared in The Age, and The Sydney Morning Herald.
The Race Discrimination Commissioner's arguments are well said
and my apologies to him for not achknowledging him as I should
have done. However, I totally agree with the Race Commissioner,
and the many other
sources that are on the web - that back him up.

A pity that mhaze sees it more important to continue to find
fault in what I post rather than looking fairly at the content.

If you take from many sources - its called research.

Here's the link again:

http://humanrights.gov.au/about/news/opinions/race-discrimination-commissioner-why-abc-chiefa-should-back-laura-tingle#

I'm having problems with my eyes.
Legally blind.

http://humanrights.gov.au/about/news/opinions/race-discrimination-commissioner-why-abc-chiefs-should-back-laura-tingle#

No Foxy... when you steal from others, its relevant.

When you try to hide the source and therefore the bias, its relevant.

The claims you made would have more force if they came from an unbiased source who did independent research and reached testable conclusions. But they didn't. They came from someone who had a financial stake in promoting the notion of Australia as a racist country ( a term that no one wants to define). That's relevant.

And you know its relevant which is why you tried (unsuccessfully ... you're welcome) to hide it

mhaze,

As a Trump supporter, this is for you:

" In a way, fraud in business is no different
from infidelity in marriage
or plagiarism in scholarly work.
Even people committed
to high moral standards succumb."

(Miroslav Volf).

I stand corrected mhaze informs that the racists attack on Taiwanese students by White Anglo Bovver Boys, although mhaze cannot be certain as to their place of birth, was in Brisbane not Melbourne. Thank you mhaze.

p/s; mhaze I assume you have some first hand knowledge of this outrageous attack! And thanks for admitting it was a racists attack in Australia!

Paul mumbled his error and then wrote: "I assume you have some first hand knowledge of this outrageous attack!"

Well you assume wrongly. But wrongly is your middle name.

" And thanks for admitting it was a racists attack in Australia!"

I did no such thing. Your comprehension skills are atrocious.

mhaze how does one "mumble" writing? You ask how to define a racists country What country are YOU in? Then I'll get back to YOU with an answer. YOU do agree most Trumpsters are racist red necks, are they not.

Hi Paul,

Most of us take pride in the country we call home.
Our story is the story of the Australian people.
It's the Australian people who define this country.
And, they come in all shapes and sizes - some from
the cities, some from the country areas, We have
people from every state and even from different
countries.

We should really salute our way of life and the people
who have enriched our land with their hard work and
contributions. Of course we're not perfect - but who is?
Our national identity has changed in our own lifetime.
It changed in my parents lifetime, and it will continue
to change for my grand-children as well.

Lets learn our history - we need to learn from Weary
Dunlop, and Caroline Chisholm and Vincent Lingiari and
all our historical kin so that we can become the
Australians we aspire to be, and even more importantly,
so that we can create the Australia we aspire to live in.

Lets learn from the history that Laura Tingle refers to.
And lets improve things for the future of all of us and
make it better for all in the future.

Hi Foxy,

In my "travels" I don't come across a lot of racists people, but I do come across a lot of well meaning prejudiced folk. There is a difference, one lot, a minority, are simply bigoted haters, the others, the majority, are influenced by their ignorance, and tend to apply stereotyping to groups that they have no involvement with and little understanding of.

Paul,

What's my location got to do with the definition of 'racist country'? Your comprehension skills are atrocious.

Still, for what its worth, I'm in God's county... rural NSW.

Hi Paul,

I've also met all sorts of people both overseas and in this
country. I take people as I find them. On the whole - I've
found that I can learn from most people - even if it's how
not to be, from some cases. While others have challenged me
to re-think some things.

My upbringing influenced me a lot. When you're raised
Catholic - it last a lifetime.

mhaze,

That surprises me, I thought you were one of the good old'e boys from Alabama, given your attitudes. You can have racists people, even racists governments, but to apply an all encompassing blanket of racism to a all within a society is unfair. During the white regime in South Africa, were all whites racist against the black majority, no, was the apartheid government racists, yes. On that bases one might have declared South Africa a racists country.

Like drawing teeth....Tingle said we ARE a racist country. Does having a subsection of the population being racist makes us a racist country?

"That surprises me,"

I suspect you go through life being constantly surprised about what you misunderstood.

mhaze,

I've been reading some of what you've said, including about a 'not a majority' etc. in terms of a racist Australia, well the figures are in from this online poll and it shows:

1. Australia an inclusive country - 40% disagree and only 21% agree
2. Racism a significant issue in Australia - 60% agree.
3. Racism a barrier to social cohesion - 59% agree
4. Racism downplayed/ignored in Australia - 67% agree.

http://nationalpoll.com.au/?section=results-page#pbi-trending-results

Whilst I do feel Laura Tingle has impacted negatively on her reputation and that of the ABC, with the poll there are four other questions, all with similar results highlighting racism is an issue in Australia. You can't deny these figures particularly when there are plenty of people willing to admit racism is an issue here in Australia.

Well Nathan, my point was more about what would make us a racist country not a definitive yes/no. Would having some racists make us a racist country or do we need to see a majority as racist to make us a racist country? Would having some racist policies make us a racist country and do we have said racist policies?

No one seems to want to face that. They just want to exonerate Tingle by declaring we are a racist country without defining what that means.

As to the poll you site:
1. NationalPoll is an adjunct of the ABC so is hardly unbiased.
2. Its an online, self-selecting poll which is about as bad as it gets in terms of polling.
3. By their own numbers the polling is skewed with only 18% saying they are Liberal Voters while over 50% are Lab/Green. So again hardly a representative poll.
4. And the poll itself doesn't address the issue as to whether people are indeed racist.

there are plenty of people willing to admit racism is an issue here in Australia.
NathanJ,
Plenty only refers to those successfully indoctrinated, most people living here not racist, they're simply tired of being accused being racist by the racists !

Indy,

Its dem darn "Concrete Jungle Bunnies" Indy, that are the racists! You said I was both!

mhaze,

I don't believe it's as simple as 50% plus 1 that determines if a country is racists or not. Laws and the acceptance of racially discriminatory laws goes a long way towards racism. The racial laws in your home state of Alabama in the 1960's, and their general acceptance by the overwhelming majority of white people made that part of America racists then, and with many examples still so today. Now you have migrated to Australia and brought your corn grits and hog jowls along with your racial attitudes here, does not necessarily make Australia a racists country. Agree?

". Now you have migrated to Australia and brought your corn grits and hog jowls along with your racial attitudes "

You're a fool.

The thinking goes like this. Paul thinks he's not racist (although it seems he's very racist against certain USians) and therefore anyone who doesn't agree 100% with his balmy views must be racist. Indicative of a small unimaginative mind.

Paul1405 finds racism where there isn't any. He also accuses people who simply advocate for harmony as being racist. The rest of the time he's busy stealing oxygen !

Why do some people get the personal life of a poster mixed up
with their posts on this forum.

A person's posts are
not a mirror of what's going on with
any poster behind closed doors. The posts do not
necessarily reflect the diversity of any poster.

The Australian newspaper tell us that:

" ABC boss David Anderson says Laura Tingle will keep
her job despite the hurt her controversial remarks
caused. "Laura Tingle certainly has my continued backing
to continue the good work that she does on the ABC."

"ABC Managing Director David Anderson said at a Senate
estimates hearing on Thursday."

It's rather strange that here on this forum those who
condemn Laura Tingle support former US President
Donald Trump, a convicted felon whose long history of
racism is well known and documented.

Go figure.

Look at our instinctive behaviour.
We are all racist and warlike.
Even in conversation, people 'punch' each other.
This is done mostly by exaggeration.
The use of unnecessary and undue emphasis.
And football games are outright aggression.
There is little that is sporting about them.

Remember always that birds of a feather flock together.
We naturally select those like us, and reject others.
That is the truth.
Reason makes us aware we must modify this behavior.
We must control these instincts, and direct them in to more profitable areas.
That is how we manage to live our lives without too much friction.
But we must be fully aware of what we are doing.
We must accept our racism before we can re-direct it.

Hi Foxy,

There is a common thread running through despots, the simple message being, YOU and those like YOU are the disadvantaged collective of the powerless common people. YOU have lost out unjustly to those who have taken unfair advantage. The simple message being, follow me and I as one of YOU will sacrifice myself in the struggle to restore justice for YOU so wronged. That was the message conveyed by Hitler to the German people, Mussolini to the Italians, Stalin to the Russians, and now Trump to the Americans...Only through me can we "Make America Great Again". Of course that requires a lot of scapegoating and targeting of those who are guilty of unjustly taking advantage, they must be punished for their crimes. The disadvantage for Trump, unlike the other three, America is far more stable both socially and economically with stronger institutions that can hopefully resists this despot.

Hi Paul,

I hear Trump's voice in our distant land
His supporters here relish his brand
His reach is great across the troubled sea
But please, never - let me ever find
That I have a Trump in me!

Perhaps 're-direct' might be the wrong word to apply to our racist approach?
Supersede could well be better?
If we consider skin colour and accent, they are just two of a person's characteristics.
If we examine other aspects of the person, our view of them can change dramatically.
Emphasis on their different strengths can change our focus completely.
We can come to see that people everywhere in the world are much the same.
Wherever we go, there will be a similar mix of personalities.
But we must bear in mind that we won't feel kindly disposed towards everyone.
There will always be those who raise our hackles.
But reason should prevail, and calmness abound.
On a different note: I do wish newsreaders would cease referring to temperatures as hot or cold.
A temperature is a number on a scale.
It does not itself have a temperature.
So temperatures as referred to might be low or high, increasing or decreasing, and so on, but never hot or cold.
It sounds so silly for then to be described in that way.

That I have a Trump in me!
Foxy,
You come up trumps in the rose-coloured glasses brigade !

Indyvidual,

Not always.

It is getting harder these days.

Especially reading some of the posts on this forum.
They are so depressing.

Hi Foxy,

No need for depression, a good story. About a week ago "Eddy", a homeless man, sleeps in his car, turned up one morning at our charity. Eddy's a regular with us, comes for assistance, once or twice a week. On this morning he hadn't come to receive but to give, Eddy was offering help, told him, we're okay today with volunteers, nothing to do. Well without be asked, Eddy seeing the big heap of mulch in the car park, he got me to open the shed where all the garden tools are kept, and six hours later Eddy had pruned, weeded and spread mulch in the gardens. Gave Eddy $50 from petty cash to help him out. Next time i seen him I asked did you spend the $50? "Nah, gave $30 to a bloke doing it tough, and spent $20 on petrol for the old girl (car)." I thought; "Whose doing it tougher than you?"

Still at it, I see.

Who cares about what someone ABC crackpot says!

If she had announced that Australia is now internationally seen as an anti-Semitic country, she would have been closer to the truth.

Australia is officially an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel country, as is clearly shown by that abominable Wong person, unrestrained by the equally abominable - or perhaps just weak - Albanese.

Hi Paul,

Thank you for that story. I really needed some good news.
I needed something positive.
My husband has been diagnosed with early dementia. It's
been a difficult time.

I've been scared a couple of times as to how we shall cope.
But so far so good.

Anyway - once again - Thanks.

mhaze,

Re your comments on the survey:

At least there are people out there willing to admit racism in an issue in Australia. There not living in denial. I don't think it matters who they vote for. I think a lot of people go by life experience and what they see out there. It's not nice for everyone, including today in Australia.

In terms of what makes Australia racist, I'd say to the others what makes Australia not racist? I think it's 50/50 and both sides need to put forward some valid arguments. It's not a one sided affair. I don't think it's good enough to avoid the 'racist Australia' issue simply because there are some nice people out there.

For example, I've had to deal with someone who's been really nasty to get on with recently and we need to do more about how to deal with these types of people. The first step is to admit they are out there and decide what action needs to be taken.

ttbn,

<<If she had announced that Australia is now internationally seen as an anti-Semitic country, she would have been closer to the truth.>>

As I pointed out before, many have been critical of a recent attack on a Jewish School in Melbourne. Myself one of them. Schools should be left alone. We've also had Jewish students on University campuses labelled Neo-Nazi's from those camping on University grounds which is vile.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-27/mount-scopus-memorial-college-anti-semitic-graffiti/103896566

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-01/act-anu-investigating-reports-of-death-threats-nazi-salute/103792200

Anti-Semitism is on the rise in Australia, but the only reason people like yourself only focus on that is because those who are racist in Australia across the board are let off the hook. This includes those coming out against Palestinians in Australia and calling them Hamas supporters. Don't use Anti-Semitism to let racist Australians off the hook. They don't deserve a free ride and shouldn't get one!

Referring to anyone, Palestinian or otherwise, as Hamas supporters is not racism.

Referring to Israel committing war crimes is not
anti-Semitism. Neither is criticism of Israel's
policies.

Not all Palestinians support Hamas the same as not
all Jews support what Israel is doing.

Regarding racism?

We've all heard hurtful rhetoric and seen bigoted and
racist stereotypes go unchallenged and people
labelled as "un-Australian."

Misinformation and disinformation sometimes runs
rampant bringing out the worst in some people.

This sort of behaviour is often excused in our national
debate on racism - when it should not be so easily
acceptable and condoned.

Words do hurt. They cause harm to people. Labels must not
be given to any race on any scale. Be it to our Indigenous
People or any other race or ethnic group.

There wouldn't be much racism at all if the racists didn't call the rest of us racist !

Our nation is a rainbow - red, yellow, brown,
black, and white, and we're all precious in
God's sight.
( Jesse Jackson).

A good head and a good heart are always a formidable
combination.
( Nelson Mandela).

Foxy,
Jackson's nor Mandela's philosophies are heeded in the increasingly sick mentality of the masses who are blinded by money & image & connivery !
Discipline & respect need to be introduced & the only way to achieve that is by making merit the main requirement for those in authority ! And, to introduce that we need a NMNS !
Unions start to open your eyes & start listening !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinship
In anthropology, kinship is the web of social relationships that form an important part of the lives of all humans in all societies
...Many codes of ethics consider the bond of kinship as creating obligations between the related persons stronger than those between strangers, as in Confucian filial piety

The concept of racism seems to be 'a universalist concept'... apparently propagandized by Marxists. There is nothing wrong with a people protecting their own interest or culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism
It seems that universalism is a form of 'Naive or Absolute Idealism'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism
Everyone wants to make their principles universal principles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic
Dialectics from Socrates Dialectical Method to Hegel's Thesis Anti-Thesis Synthesis to Marx's Dialectical Materialism (Communism).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Burnham
Burnham became a prominent Trotskyist activist in the 1930s.
...he rejected Marxism and became an influential theorist of the political right as a leader of the American conservative movement.

The general Marxian theory of "universal history", to the extent that it has any empirical content, seems to me disproved by modern historical and anthropological investigation.
Marxian economics seems to me for the most part either false or obsolete or meaningless...
Not only do I believe it meaningless to say that "socialism is inevitable" and false that socialism is "the only alternative to capitalism"; I consider that on the basis of the evidence now available to us a new form of exploitive society (which I call "managerial society") is not only possible but is a more probable outcome of the present than socialism. …

By George Orwell...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Thoughts_on_James_Burnham

There is nothing wrong with a people protecting their own interest or culture.

Laura Tingle is a very blonde, very fair skinned, self-hating far-Left apparatchik, who is completely unhinged - fully qualified work for the ABC, but of no consequence to society.

Over the past decade racist incidents have been
reported in almost all aspects of Australian society.
On public transport, in healthcare, in schools, in
the workplace, in our essential institutions.

More than two third's of students from non-European
backgrounds have experienced racism at school. And so
it goes. We've seen it in Parliament with Pauline
Hanson wearing a burqa.

Understanding the extent of racism in Australia is
the first step towards better understanding amongst
our communities. We have Indigenous Australians, Asian
Australians, Migrant and refugee communities. We have
Australians of diverse religious and cultural backgrounds.
Education and understanding and getting rid of stereotypes
is key.

We all have stories to tell. We all have our side of each
story - but that does not mean that we can't get along.
We have to admit that we do have folk who face the
brunt of racism in our communities. Not only in subtle
ways but blatantly in everyday public settings and
institutions.

We can collectively do better.
Instead of being in denial or trying to justify our behaviour.

Foxy,
why make it sound like racism is a "European" thing ?

Indyvidual,

Major surveys have found that
more than two thirds of students from non-European
backgrounds face racism at school and that 76% of
Australians from a non-European background have
experienced racial discrimination based on their
ethnicity.

Understanding the extent of racism in Australia
is the first step to eradicating it.

Foxy said-

Major surveys have found that more than two thirds of students from non-European backgrounds face racism at school and that 76% of Australians from a non-European background have experienced racial discrimination based on their ethnicity. Understanding the extent of racism in Australia is the first step to eradicating it.

Comment- I believe this is tyrannical propaganda. We cannot as Foxy said 'collectively work together' with people that refuse to concede any ground and don't negotiate in good faith. Interesting that Foxy uses the phrase 'eradicate ... racism' as the only choice is to eradicate and marginalize the disloyal and benefiting dis-similar from our sphere of intercourse. My understanding is that Foxy has vested interest in the university sector. Millions of immigrants arrived recently, the media talked of 700K in the past year. Australia by far one of the highest per capita immigration rates- shameful unrepresentatives having media/ institutional power still proclaim that Australia racist. The profane obscenely conspiring political parties denying democracy on immigration brought in immigrants without democratic process and justify themselves and defile the people under auspices of universalist anti-racism. Local's are reacting to tyrannical victim blaming government's and benefactor's. Engaging in ethnic manipulation and cleansing of the Australian people, in the name of anti-racism. If there is racism in Australia the biggest racism has been to disenfranchise the founding peoples both in scale and extent. 'In groups' of Marxist and Global Capitalism have hijacked Australia for their own wet power dreams.
The only nations of the world where multiculturalism is policy are western nations- why is this?? Why do people of European heritage need to give up their power in the name of anti-racism but no one else needs to??

Some groups create chaos for power. The middle east has always been at war with Europe, China invaded Europe in the 1200's. There is always probing at the borders of nations by foreign entities and foreign populations it is the duty and responsibility of governments, media, universities, institutions, corporations to be loyal to native interests. If they act as looters then they will be treated as looters. Universities supposedly the guardian's of credibility and truth are corrupt- negating their authority- and public sources of truth are invalid. The people are able to see for themselves what their own interest is- 'the first step' is to think.

There is nothing wrong with a people protecting their own interest and culture from interference.

The founding people need to take back their power and their territory.

Hi Foxy,

Me thinks this CM character is a National Socialists, and a poorly disguised one at that, he pushes the White Aryan Race line at every opportunity.

Yes Foxy; "why make it sound like racism is a "European" thing ?" that particular Gubba on being informed that one has Aboriginal blood and lives in a city, immediately refereed to the Koori as a "Concrete Jungle Bunny" disgusting act of racism if I've ever seen one. No doubt Indy will explain.

Hi Paul,

I love what Ben Pobjie writes:

"Australia has come a long way these past hundreds of years.
From its humble beginnings it's become a thriving,
wealthy, modern nation. Back in 1788 the progenitors of
modern Australia knew nothing of globalisation."

"But, they had one thing in common. Despite their
ignorance, they had one thing in common with the average
Aussie of today."

"They had a restless pioneer energy, the pulsating
determination to make the world a better place which
drove explorers over mountains and across deserts and
pushed soldiers into the midst of enemy fire and
convinced young children of humble origins that they
could achieve a better life."

"Australia has achieved a great deal from its humble
beginnings we can look at our country's history,
burrow beneath the mythology and look at the rich diversity
of the Australians who helped make this nation great."

"Australia will continue to evolve - its gone from its
humble beginnings as a British penal colony to its
modern-day status as one of the major powers of the
sub-Asian super-Antarctic next to Africa region."

"Whatever happens to Australia the country, we can be
sure of one thing: Australia's history, rich and
colourful and filled with heroism and drama will
continue and live on into infinity."

There will always be critics yearning for the "good old
days," as they allow the current times to pass them by.
That's inevitable.

What is so great about Australia apart
from the glittering beaches, the rugged outback, diversity
of our fauna, Do we really express our pride only in the
natural wonders offered by the landmass?

Surely not. The real beauty of this country lies not in
the trees and seas. It lies in the greatest resource that
any country can have. In its people. Our country's history,
the story of Australia, is the story of the Australian people.

The Australian people define Australia, create it, represent it.

Instead of looking for negatives - lets
look closely at what really has made and continues to make
us who we are.

AUSSIE, AUSSIE, AUSSIE!

I'm not sure what Paul1405 is referring to above.

Perhaps he prefers it that way.

Perhaps he is referring to the subject of 'Eugenics'. Eugenics is everywhere in different forms. Perhaps Paul1405 isn't aware of current research. There are also leftist groups (Paul1405 might approve of them) that aspire to using eugenics to improve the human race- CRISPR is one technology. Some have used eugenics as a form of warfare in various ways going back in recorded history. Eugenics might be considered to be among the 'tools' of biological weapons. But I suppose it depends on how you want to use the tool 'to preserve or to destroy'.

National Library of Medicine- National Center for Biotechnology Information
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8321981/

Recessive traits of North European are vulnerable to interbreeding due to Mendel's Law's. Breeding Northern European's with Sub Saharan African's will cause African dominance of physical traits in one generation. Brown eyes dominate Blue eyes. But the genetic uniqueness of Northern European's will be lost.

It seems that Marxists of various types argue similarly to Paul1405 and want to 'erase white people'.
But they can claim that they didn't do anything. When good people do nothing... but Marxist's are not good people that want to destroy the British Aristos and all Aristos. Marxist's are envious people but they aren't the only ones. We've see what happens when there isn't anything else to envy... 100 million people dead under Communism- I'm sure that they are willing to commit genocide to reach their goals. Given that Paul1405 repeats similar things to Communist Marxist's maybe, and I say it as a way of comparison rather than merely to attack, maybe Paul1405 is complicit in the deaths of Communism.

I want to protect and preserve my heritage just like everyone else. If I need to use some sort of Eugenics to do it, then I will.

But I expect that Paul1405 will continue to spread his propaganda- amusing.

There is also the tragic loss of languages in the world- but that seems to be to the Marxist 'Blank Slate Plan'- this is also a form of 'genocide by omission' rather than commission.

The good news is that many of our country's Indigenous
languages are returning and are being taught.

Yay!

By all means lets preserve our country's culture and
heritage.

A lot of people don't grasp the difference between language & dialect !

Today communities across Australia are working to
revive at least 31 Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander languages. The active preservation,
recording, and promotion of First Australian
languages is necessary for their survival.

Growing up in the 1950s, '60s, and early 70s, we're told
was not a joyous time. The TV Series, "The Making of
Modern Australia," was according to the Series Producer -
Ian Collie, "folk TV."

The series was built entirely around interviews and
archival footage.

"In the end what we wanted was the people's history. We
wanted the people who had experienced history to tell it
from their point of view. Stories had to be revealed
entirely by the people who had lived them."

We're told we should not sugar-coat the depiction of life
in Australia
in that time. A time where childhoods were filled with
strict discipline, and ignorance.

Alongside depictions of halcyon or blissful childhoods we've
got people whose early years were spent in a series of
public institutions. We've got people who were members of
the Stolen Generations. We've got orphans who were
brutalised in the care of the Sisters of Mercy.

Modern kids today aren't as disadvantaged in the way some
were in the past.

Acknowledging our past needs to be done.

There are those who will say there is no point in looking
at the past, that the important thing is to look to the
future. How can one know where one is going, if one doesn't
know where one has been?

Hope for the future must always be based on respect for
the past and in knowing the truth about the past we may learn
something about ourselves

ttbn,

<<Referring to anyone, Palestinian or otherwise, as Hamas supporters is not racism.>>

Well for me it's a pretty appalling thing to be doing to someone if they have nothing to do with Hamas at all.

So let's not split hairs here. Appalling activity against others is just that - appalling. Just like those who have been treating Jews in Australia as second class citizens. That is also appalling.

Bad behaviour is just that bad behaviour. We need to call it out and it needs to be stopped.

<<Laura Tingle is a very blonde, very fair skinned, self-hating far-Left apparatchik, who is completely unhinged - fully qualified work for the ABC, but of no consequence to society.>>

I don't know why you need to put out such hate. I believe she did the wrong thing here, as she should be impartial and she has damaged the reputation of the ABC but she shouldn't have to face vile comments like that. I don't think you realise what you are always putting out.

Foxy,

<<Referring to Israel committing war crimes is not
anti-Semitism. Neither is criticism of Israel's
policies.>>

I agree. For some reason ttbn doesn't. I don't know how many times he needs to be told. He seems to think it is O.K to treat a Palestinian like a piece of trash... but you question the Israeli Government and you're antisemitic, a sell out and someone anti-Jew. All I can say is the double standards are huge! P.S He may like to have a chat with Antony Loewenstein.

Hi Nathan,

Antony Loewenstein has also received hate mail and
all sorts of derogatory names and labels

Hi Nathan,

Laura Tingle certainly does not deserve the vitriol.
The coverage of her comments on racism as many have pointed
out is a textbook beat up.

The following link explains why:

http://theconversation.com/the-coverage-of-laura-tingles-comments-on-racism-is-a-textbook-beat-up-but-shes-not-in-the-wrong-231051

Understanding the extent of racism in Australia
is the first step to eradicating it.
Foxy,
Then understand that there are more non-Caucasian racists in Australia than Caucasian !

Yes Foxy!

Don't you know these grubby non-Caucasian are getting on social forums, like this one, and calling Aboriginal people "concrete jungle bunnies" not that it racists hummmmm?....Indy I didn't know you were Chinese!

Indyvidual,

How can there be more non-Caucasian racists than
Caucasian racists in Australia, when in population
sizes Caucasians outnumber non-Caucasians?

I didn't know you were Chinese!
Paul1405,
There are lots of things you don't know due to your fixation on things that only exist in your mind. Foxy has a similar problem !

Paul1405,
Actually, Foxy's problem is that she refuses to see things that are there !

Indyvidual,

Foxy sees idiots quite clearly!

She can tell the sheep from the goats.

Indyvidual,

The mind is like the stomach.

It's not how much you put into it that counts but how
much it digests.

We don't have to visit a mental institution to find
disordered minds.

This forum has enough of them to go around.

Indy,

Foxy is one of the more astute posters on the forum, her comments are generally well researched and spot on. Unlike the Old Fart brigade who post mind numbing clap-trap most of the time. There a couple of posters who know what they are talking about, and they are not always in agreement with me.

Paul1405,
you're beyond belief !

The mind is like the stomach.
Foxy,
Wrong analysis, the stomach gets cleared every day, the mind can't be. Whatever gets into it stays there. Good & bad !

Yes Indy, I realise the "GREAT MINDS OF THE FORUM" group of which there is a very exclusive membership of 3, Foxy being one, and in all modesty I say myself as well is in that exalted group, it is limited to 3, SteeleRedux being the 3rd member of the FORUM HOLY TRINITY. Unfortunately for you if the "GREAT MINDS OF THE FORUM" group, if it was expanded to 300 members, nay 3000, YOU would not make the cut, YOU just don't cut the mustard old salt! Better luck next time around.

BTW Steele hasn't been on here for a good while, and Hassy seems long gone as well, along with SM.

Paul1405,
Delusion is your forte !

Indyvidual,

The mind is like the stomach. It's not how much you
put into it that counts but how much it digests.

The entire nervous system that regulates our gut is
often called the body's "second brain." This
extensive network uses the same chemicals and cells
as the brain to help us digest and to alert the
brain when something is amiss.

During digestion food that you've eaten moves through
your gastrointestinal tract where it gradually is
broken down allowing nutrients to be absorbed.
Not everything is absorbed. Hence disorders occur.

Question; If a person of your ethnicity is directed by authority to ignore your evidence in favour of someone's mere say-so from another ethnicity, is the authority racist ?

Indyvidual,

Racism in Australia has existed against various ethnic
or minority groups since British colonisation.

Examples can be found throughout Australia's history -
from Indigenous people, to African, Asian, Pacific Islander,
Middle-Eastern, and so on.

The Racial Discrimination Act - 1975 (RDA) makes it
unlawful to discriminate against a person because of his
or her race, colour, descent, religion, national or etnic
origin or immigrant status. It also makes racial hatred
unlawful..

Yet many people today still experience racist attacks
from ignorant people. Old habits die hard.

However if you're talking about individual behaviour
of some people that is inappropriate, rude, et cetera,
then it should be called out and should not be
described as racist. In other words things should
be taken in context and judged within that context.

Indyvidual- I think the answer to your question is yes "the group is racist". But don't expect Foxy and Paul1405 to compromise their own individual biases.

I just love it when Paul and I rightly call out
someone on their BS - we're made out to be the bad guys.

Racism in Australia has existed against various ethnic
or minority groups since British colonisation.
Foxy,
You really have no clue do you ? Do you know what the Aborigines, Islanders & Papuans think of each other ?
As I stated earlier, there are way more racists among the non-Caucasians ! And, on top of being quite racist, a huge number are also highly hypocritical. In fact they're everything & more they accuse the Caucasians to be.
It's people like you who foster the lie so many real indigenous are now forced to live !

Hi Foxy,

If a person on learning another had Aboriginal heritage and living in a city, then referred to that person as a "concrete jungle bunny", would that person be considered a RACISTS? What do you think Indy?

Hi Paul,

Your posts always manage to make me smile.

Thank you.

I'm glad to see that Indyvidual has found a kindred
spirit on this forum. Now he can direct his questions
to him instead of me, and he'll be told what he wants
to hear.

would that person be considered a RACISTS? What do you think Indy?
Paul1405,
Depends. If you're of a jovial character or a miserable one. It can be humorous or offensive, totally depends on your character.
As I have explained many times, I was unaware that it was racist to compare people living in a concrete jungle like in a rabbit warren as the city dwellers do. I was also unaware that people in cities are black. I've lived in Sydney & I saw many more non-black & as far as I know one can't be racist to one's own kind !
An opportunistic racist would jump at the opportunity to call out out something that isn't there just like you constantly do !
If there is an actual racist here it's you hands down !

Kudos Indyvidual.