"It's not what I'm saying it's what everyone is saying that is paying close attention to it."

No. Its what everyone you read is saying. But that's not remotely the same thing as everyone. I've tried to explain to you before that reading one side gives you one side. I can show you any number of studies showing the dire straights the Chinese economy is in or the collapse in the Chinese demography that is being hidden. One I looked at t'other day used very reasonable assumptions to show that the Chinese population might be a much as 40% overstated by the CCP.

Go here.... http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chinese+population

and see what 'everyone' isn't telling you.

I've said before that a totalitarian state that sees its window of opportunity closing is very dangerous -eg Putin's Russia - and for that reason China is increasingly dangerous.

"China doesn't want to rule the world militarily, it wants to rule it economically by trade,"

"Fun Fact: China has more naval vessels than the US"

This from the same person on the SAME day.
It must be nice to have such flexible opinions. Whatever you want to be true at this moment is true, and if its inconvenient later, then just ditch it!!

But the relative current trajectory of the US's and China's military and economy is largely beside the point. Short term events aren't pointers to long term trends. And even if the trends were bad for the west (hint: they aren't) that's no reason to abandon the cause of saving our way of life just to please your subservience to the CCP

Fun fact: China doesn't have 800 military bases in 70 countries.
It has one, in Djibouti and Russia has one in Tartus.

Sadly we've gone through this before mhaze, this claim of yours;

"Fun Fact: China has more naval vessels than the US" Imply China has a stronger navy than the US.

The mhaze logic is if the US has 100 nuclear submarines and China has 101 row boats then Chine has the bigger navy.

Fun Facy; US naval capacity far outstrips that of China. (despite China having more ships)

"And even if the trends were bad for the west (hint: they aren't) that's no reason to abandon the cause of saving our way of life just to please your subservience to the CCP"

Who said anything about subservience to the CCP?

You think I want Australia to stop giving the Americans fellatio so we can go and provide the same service to the Chinese instead?
You might be happy down there on your knees, but I'm not.

And as for our way of life?
Don't point the finger at me, point the finger at the idiots in charge that we vote for?
Championing democracy doesn't work when all we get is sellouts.

I didn't piss our soverignty away to join the UN.
I didn't let a million immigrants in a year.
I didn't infect the country with all this woke nonsense.
I didn't shut down the power grid and make people homeless.

Democracy did all that mate.
Or better still, lets just call them fckwits in charge.

Speaking of sellouts, the woke right Israel firsters are probably as bad as anyone supportive of the CCP.
They complain about government over-reach and censorship but champion it if its in support of Israel.
They'd be quite happy if the cops were billy-clubbing kids on campus that oppose Israels actions.
These people think there's a Star of David on our flag.

Like somehow the rest of normal thinking Aussies with a conscience want to be associated with the genocide those people support.
Go read your Scofield Reference Bible or something.

Eww the west is so cringeworthy.
King Charles just unveiled a portrait that screams 'Satan's little helper'
And Tony Blinken is in Kiev singing Neil Young's 'Rockin in the Free World'
(and if you read the song lyrics...)

Paul,

Ya berk. It wasn't me saying China having more ships was important. It was your BFF, Armchair. I was merely quoting him to point out the moronosity of what he was claiming.

Do try to keep up with the rest of the class.

Still. it means that you and I are on the same page as regards this point which:

1. makes me feel a little icky
2. makes me wonder if I'm in the wrong.