They're not even leaders anyway ttbn, not for our sakes anyway.
They're branch managers.

There's a bigger agenda at play with immigration.
'Change the people = Change the government'

If you change the people, and the minds of the people
They will vote in different leadership more amenable to UN goals and US hegemonic policies, which is essentially rule by elite western capitalists, who are really globalists and have no allegiance to country.

These so called leaders are there to help manage the change.
Not inform the populace, or let them decide their future.
These leaders are there to steer us all towards that which the elite have already decided FOR US.

They're all schmucks, tools for someone else's bidding - the question is whether they actually realise it or not.

Hows any normal Aussie supposed to be a centrist?

It's not as though one party just wants tax cuts for the rich;
And the other party wants more spent on hospitals and education.
You could find a middle position if that's all the arguments were.

Both parties are supporting high immigration and taking sides in what will likely end up in conflict between great powers
Where's the anti-war position - what democracy?
Where's the sensible immigration - what democracy?

One side of politics supports one band of lunatics
Think high immigration, DEI (diversity equality inclusive)
Feminists, LGBTIQ+ (and the plus is for bestiality apparently) and Pro risk of Islamic extremism.

The other band of fanatics are Pro-Christian, Pro-Evangelical, Pro-Nationalist but Pro-Israel and Pro-Genocide.

and Not-so-much Pro-DEI / Immigrants/ Feminists / Critical Race Theory / Transgender toilet / Sex with Pets / Risk of Islamic Extremism.

Where in the hell do you find the centre?
You can't, both sides have become fanatical, as has the leadership.
They don't seem that bad, but there's no 'sensible' options anymore.

And Aussie kids aren't going to easily even be able to buy their own homes.
So who wins here, really?

AC

You want a centre? How about the ex-Liberal Democrats that were forced by the Liberal Party to rebadge themselves Libertarians because the Liberals think the average voter is stupid enough to mix the two parties up and they could fail to vote Liberal, voting instead for the breakaway party. The Liberals have no more respect for the electorate than the Labor Green Alliance does

The Libertarians push small government, which is a start. I suspect that they are still too lefty for me.

Friend of mine dropped in just before.
her and her partner have a big family, quite a few kids.
She was talking about the living situation at her place.
I knew she moved about 3 or 4 months back, the real estate or owner wanted to jack up the rent, by a significant amount.

Apparently her partner had a sister, with alcohol dependency issues.
They decided to give it a go and got a bigger place, but things didn't work out, the sister was drinking too much, breaking things and blaming it on the kids.

Anyway she said she couldn't handle the kids anymore, and moved out leaving my friend with a large rent to pay.

She told me that 6 weeks back they took in a 16yo Chinese exchange student.
She gets paid about $400 per week, but has to provide meals and get him to school etc.
Apparently she said things are going really well.
The Chinese kids gets along with their boy, and their financial problems after the sister left are alleviated.

But I have to think about the impact of these foreign students.
'If you don't take one in, you can't afford the rent'

How much is all this really affecting prices?

small government, which is a start.
ttbn,
Labor would lose half its voters & the LNP would have the unenviable task to import thinking ones to get the Public Service to become what it's supposed to be.
We need to rid ourselves of the bureaucrats like those from the Molly the Magpie fiasco !

Albanese's plan for 1.2 million houses over 5 years is not going to happen, even with 5.2% of the population working in the industry.

This is one of the highest in the world. The OECD is 3.3%

Want more? Which sector will the workers be taken from? We can't bring anymore from overseas because there is nowhere for them to live!

Home builders are also competing for workers with Big Australia, Big Building government projects.

Costs have risen 30%-40% since the brilliantly-managed Covid fiasco.

The only solution to the housing crisis lies in cutting immigration of all kinds.

Indyvidual,

The bureaucrats are a problem. I saw somewhere the other day the suggestion that Australia is now run 'by the bureaucrats for the
bureaucrats'