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oops dropped a zero .... "writing down the Jesus story within 20 years of his death." NB 20 not 2.

These writings were Paul's letters to the various churches around the Aegean and elsewhere.

Josephus...Pilate Letter on Christ.
Sorry, but its a fake.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 1 April 2024 4:15:36 PM
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Jose'

You refer to writings from the 5th century "Acts of Peter and Paul" the writer of which is unknown. The Non-Christian historians Josephus and Tacitus give evidence for the existence of Jesus, but little else is known. Much that is attributed as being the "word of Jesus" may just as easily be from other sources, we simply don't know.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 1 April 2024 4:28:25 PM
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Something interesting from the 1st century "Dead Sea Scrolls". There is no mention of Jesus Christ or Christianity as a sect within Judaism contained in the scrolls at all. They give a detailed insight into Judaism as practised in Judea at the time, but for the Christian Sect and its founder, there's nothing.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 1 April 2024 4:46:16 PM
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Jose'

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, ah! Just as you have trotted out the "Letter From Pilate" in the past as iron clad evidence of the circumstance surrounding the crucifixion of Christ, you do so again, its complete bunk! The only independent account is that of the Roman Tacitus, that Christ was crucified by Pilate, but the circumstance and the details are not known. Josephus and Lucian also make passing reference to the crucifixion. I believe there has been a huge amount of embellishment added to the Easter story, most likely by early Christians to give a undeserved "supernatural aurora" to Christ. The fact is nothing was recorded of Jesus during his life, not his teachings or his actions, it all came about in the centuries after his death, by people who had a vested interest in promoting a supernatural Jesus, like Christianity today, early Christians were out to attract new adherents, and "good" stories was a way of doing just that.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 5:19:54 AM
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Most aboriginals did not turn up because they do not want someone telling them what they need. They want to live their lives free of Government interference. Only the activists turn up to put their voice, some with ZERO votes they did not even vote for themselves or even as few as four votes. To represent 30,000 aboriginals who did not turn up.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 4 April 2024 4:28:53 PM
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mhaze,

When challenged mhaze quickly backtracks, 2 years become 20 years. The earliest Gospel that of "Mark" (real name unknown) was at least 30 years after Christs death, could be as much as 40 years. So what were the writings within 20 years? I think you plucked 20 years out of the air. Pre Gospel accounts of Christ are rather scant, mention him in passing, nothing more.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 4 April 2024 5:07:41 PM
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