RayGen has officially launched its first commercial concentrated PV and thermal storage project following the successful commissioning of a 4 MW solar plant backed by 2.8 MW/50 MWh of long-duration storage at Carwarp in Victoria’s northwest.

The chief operating officer at AGL which is developing a similar solar-plus-thermal storage plant with RayGen at the former coal-fired Liddell power station site in New South Wales, said the technology provides a possible solution to the challenge of long-duration energy storage particularly given its potential to be scaled.

“This innovative approach to long-duration energy storage using concentrated PV and thermal hydro storage greatly improves the efficiency and economics of solar plus storage, providing a potential solution for long duration energy storage,” he said, adding “the technology has the potential to be deployed at greater scale.”

Fortunately for Australia, the innovation in technology is finding ever more efficient ways of providing our energy need.

the technology provides a possible solution to the challenge of long-duration energy storage
WTF? - Not Again,
Let's hope they're right. Did they disclose their carbon foot print size for this development & construction ?
My uneducated guess is that it'd be ten times greater than had they kept burning coal.
As I said it would be great if they were as successful as they portray it all.
btw, is hopefully on par with possibly ?

Thanks, WTF

There's no limit to the amount of the Sun's energy that is reaching the Earth, its only a matter of investing in the developing technology to harness that energy for useful work. The renewable's technology is moving ahead in leaps and bounds, whilst the finite fossil fuels are becoming very much redundant. The big energy companies like AGL are proving that with their investment in renewable's. This is something the crusty old men of the forum can't understand.

The project cost was around $27million which as always with these things, DOESN'T include the costs of linking the project to the grid. Quite a lot for private investors to cough up. I wonder where the money came from.

Oh lookie here....$15 million came from ARENA which is a round about way of saying it came from the taxpayer. Oh and ARENA (ie the taxpayer) is proposing to chuck in another $10 million. All up ARENA (ie the taxpayer) has given RayGen over $38 million.

Truly it is said that, while so-called renewables may not be all that efficient at generating electricity, it is spectacularly successful at generating taxpayer subsidies.

But that's OK because the government can just duck out the back of parliament house and pluck a few more subsidies off the money tree

Interesting, it can deliver 2.8Mwatts and has a capacity of 50 Mwatt hours.
So it can run for 17 hours. Looks promising.
Such systems however have to cope with 3 or 4 or 5 heavily overcast
days so that would multiply their size.
Probably cheaper than lithium batteries but a lot more losses.

Again, the pollution from setting up & maintain Green energy is still way above that of coal burning.
Just because they can't see smoke coming from chimneys makes the simpledoms think it's clean power !

The great lie that green energy creates more CO2 pollution than fossil fuel energy production has been peddled by vested interest, Big Coal, Big Oil, Big Gas, for years, and the silly old Useful Idiots have taken the bait and believe and repeat the lie ad infinitum. These same folk also believe the Earth is flat, and smoking is good for you. Such negative people are the gullible, and the greedy, not to be listened to.
.

"The problem with trying to control the weather with our energy grid is that it’s impossible". (Jo Nova)

"The demand for power and control over the masses will just keep increasing until they revolt. So save time, revolt now", she says.

"I’m convinced that fear over climate change ...... is the last and best hope for those lustful to rule the world by force. Some people just want to run the world…" (Anon)

great lie that green energy creates more CO2 pollution than fossil fuel energy production
Paul1405,
You'd find that you're one of those successfully hood-winked were you to have the sense to comprehend !

2.8 MW.

Another 999 of them and we can replace the Hazelwood power station.

As Mhaze said this is virtue signalling with taxpayer's money.

What the Old Fossils on the forum don't realise with their pissing in the wind, is that no one wants to make long term investments in coal fired power stations. The payback is just not there, the smart money is being invested in renewable energy. The Noalition created a complete cock-up of the sector with 22 failed energy policies, now Labor has given a commitment to a strong policy, investors are clamouring to put money into renewable's. End of story.

Paul, of course no one wants to invest in coal stations.
They would spend a fortune on proposals and have no hope of getting
the go ahead.
That does not change the arithmetic.
One would expect China to stop all exports of solar and wind and not
build any coal stations, and devote wind & solar to their own use.
I wonder why ?
Well that is not what is happening.

Our project for wind & solar will probably collapse under its own weight.

Paul, of course no one wants to invest in coal stations.
They would spend a fortune on proposals and have no hope of getting
the go ahead.
That does not change the arithmetic.
One would expect China to stop all exports of solar and wind and not
build any coal stations, and devote them to their own use.
I wonder why ?
Well that is not what is happening.

Our project for wind & solar will probably collapse under its own weight.

Why would anyone invest in coal when there are a whole bunch of fwits that want to close them with no compensation?

Let's see how the greenies get thumped after a blackout in Victoria.

Somehow I seem to recall Paul1405 riling-up about people only thinking of money only recently ? Yet, here he is telling us of investors getting cold feet at Green Energy ?
His arguments never seem to have any basis to them !

Indy,

Another increased, unsustainable, aged welfare handout coming your way from Albo, 20th September! When is this madness of boosting unsustainable aged welfare going to stop? All aged welfare recipes should be made part of the Gig Economy, and be forced to deliver corporate pizzas on their tax payer funded green electric scooters/ golf buggies! Indy are you up for it, delivering pizzas at $1 a pop on your electric scooter? I'll have a pepperoni with extra cheese, make it snappy young fella, or no dollar!

Paul,

As you are a decrepit pensioner sucking on the welfare teat, you are not in a position to criticise.

SM,

No need to concern yourself with a self funded retiree like me. If I was you I would be more concerned about the NATIONAL PARTY MP that's a convinced paedophile, JAMES HAYWARD, the grub liked to interfer with an 8 year old girl. Or the councillor accused of murder, LIBERAL NATIONAL PARTY member RYAN BAYDON-LUMSDEN ....where do they come from? Any comment, you always like to comment on those things.

a self funded retiree like me.
Paul1405,
You mean the Public Service Superfund funded by the Taxpayers ? How does it differ from the old age pension ?
It's no different or even worse because your Super was all salary sacrifice & then topped up by 13% from the Peter Principle Service. So, in actual fact you're more of teat sucker & hypocrite than pensioners who paid over 50 years & got no salary sacrifice.
I'd be too ashamed to call myself self-funded after years of being of no benefit to society & then accept such discounts at the expense of others !

Indy,

I've never had PS superannuation, so you are like SM, full of it. I see the old age welfare mob, that's you, are in for a $3,000 hike. Disgusting. I met an old welfare bloke on a brand spanking new mobility scooter, BTW, the old fella can out run me. When I asked about the shiny new wheels, he told me the government coughed up 6 grand for it. Now doesn't that beat all. I once questioned why there are so many of these footpath "Mercedes" parked outside God's waiting Room, now I know why, I'm paying for them, while the old farts are inside playing pokies and pissing up on my taxes. BTW what model scooter do you have Indy? The Mercedes, nah, I bet you've got the Rolls Royce model with all the bells and whistles, a bloke of your long experience at the trough, would know how to play the system.

Village idiot,

Once again you demonstrate a literacy level of a 5-year-old.

"A convinced paedophile" seriously? did you learn English in juvie?

That is nothing compared to the child rape of the two CONVICTED greens paedophiles. Or the greens councillor arrested for homophobic abuse assault and theft.

You must be getting desperate.

You can blame Julia & her NDIS for that scooter Paul. The NDIS scheme is Julia's revenge for us not loving the B.

I bought myself the same scooter for $2300 when the tax payer funded NDIS bureaucrats managed to pay $5600 at the time. How typical of incompetent bureaucrats that they can manage to pay 2.5 times the price for the exact same item.

SM,

Starting with the name calling again. I would rather have a literacy level of a 5-year-old, and make a typo, than be a NATIONAL PARTY MP like the "rock spider" JAMES HAYWARD, who you haven't condemned for his actions of interfering with a 6 to 8 year old girl, in fact you said; "That is nothing", the grub is a convicted PAEDOPHILE! You have spent years on this forum trying to associate me with a failed Greens candidate, Jonathan Doig who stood at the 2019 election against Morrison. Like Hayward, Doig is a disgusting individual and convicted paedophile who I have rubbished on many occasions when you have made your, "guilt by association", references to the grub, and constanly referring to pedogreens. What do you have to say about Hayward, other than; "That is nothing"

I'm not getting desperate at all, you have been desperate for years, and others, both Steele and Foxy, have called you out about your fixation with paedophiles and paedophilia. You don't like it when the boots on the other foot do you.

The Zero advocates are juggling the funding manipulation with negative gearing manipulation hence alternative energy being a duck dead in the cooling pond ! To date, no alternative energy has created anything without emission.
How anyone could actually believe that there can be Zero emission in manufacturing everything these parasites demand is beyond logic & reason.
Starting new arguments within a debate is about their only defence to having no answer to how things we need including Green energy can be made without emission !

Village idiot,

Once again you are a liar and a fraud. I didn't say it was nothing and you fraudulently misrepresented me again. Why are you so crooked? Is it a Green feature?

What Haywood did is reprehensible, but again nothing compared to the Senior Green Doig who actually raped children or the other Green candidate that help make child porn.

Haywood was a rank amateur compared to the green paedophiles.

SM,

Name calling again, I am not going to discuss the merits of the actions of Hayward and/or Doig with someone like you, other than to repeat what I have said many time previously, they are both disgusting individuals, as you've made dozens of references to paedophiles (Green and Labor Party) on this forum with the clear intention of associating me with Doig. You said in reference to Hayward; "That is nothing" mitigating Hayward's acts of paedophilia against a child of the age of 6 for a period of two years. Nothing meaning; "not anything; no single thing" (internet definition). What an idiot, you think there is a gold standard for paedophiles, do you? You don't like it when the boot is on the other foot. Have a whinge again to the moderator if you like. What a big sooky baby.

Paul1405,
Please provide your explanation as to what a Zero emission industry will be able to provide ?

Village idiot,

Lying through your teeth again? You fraud.

If there was a gold standard for paedophiles Senior Green Doig would be it.

As I have shown the Greens by their actions have shown undue tolerance towards paedophiles, certainly in Germany. Perhaps they consider it just another gender. LGBTIQ+P?

SM,

Name calling again, not sure what you are going on about The Greens Party in Germany, no affiliation with the the Australian Greens, no more that I would associate The Liberal Party with the antics of members of the British Conservative Party! You try to make something of this Doig, an unsuccessful Greens candidate, one of about 15,000 members not like the NATIONAL PARTY MP the recently convicted paedophile JAMES HAYWARD, an associate of those from your side of politics, a one in nine member of the WA Nationals. In a sick twist its been revealed HAYWARD voted on Child Protection Legislation in the WA Parliament.

Then there is the accused murderer! THE LNP MEMBER COUNCILLOR RYAN BAYLDON_LUMSDEN, accused of murdering an old man. Found guilty he should get life in prison

The Convicted Green paedophiles actually raped children, and while Hayward's actions were reprehensible he never raped anyone.

"The Green parties in Germany and Australia have had connections for several decades. In fact, the Australian Greens were inspired by the success of the German Greens in the 1980s and modelled their party after them. The two parties have since maintained a relationship, with regular exchanges of ideas and collaboration on global environmental issues. In recent years, they have also worked together within the Global Greens network, which is a coalition of Green parties from around the world. Overall, the connection between the Green parties in Germany and Australia has been a long-standing and productive one."

So the Australian Greens evolved from the German Greens

SM,

I have no intention of debating with you the "merits" of the actions of one disgusting individual over another disgusting individual, as you get off on the subject of paedophilia I'll leave that to you, I'm sure you've read all about it.

I can see what you are niggling at by references to the German Greens, you are the village idiot, and not worth entertaining. For years on this forum you have tried to associate me with the disgusting actions of an insignificant person who happened to be a one time member of a political party I am also a member of, as I said you are the village idiot. Others have expressed their opinions on your behaviour previously.

Village idiot,

Nice try, you are the village idiot and now it appears that you are fascinated with Paedophiles.

Your lying and idiocy are legendary on OLO.

Paul1405,
Any chance of providing your idea as to how alternative Green energy will be Zero emission ?
And, please don't trail off into some totally unrelated waffle, just answer a valid question !

Three days & still Paul1405 hasn't managed to find some link or get a link of Foxy to provide an answer.

Indy,

Answer my question, I've been asking of you for years; "What country did you migrate from?" Then I'll answer your question in detail, until then I don't feel obligated to answer anything you ask.

Paul1405,
You don't have the Anstännegkeet to know anything about better people than you !

Paul1405,
Mindless Green Energy arguments are just that, mindless ! You can not even dream up an energy so Green that it can be Zero emission & only Green imbeciles are so indoctrinated to spruik Zero emission by 2050 including just as mindless leftist Politicians !

Just saw on Fossbytes that the South Koreans built a 2 litre Hydro car engine !
Now that's thinking AND doing not jus waffling on.