Hi Paul,

We all see the world our own way. That doesn't make us good or bad or insincere. The people on this forum are here because we have a commonality of caring about things, although our caring comes from quite varied perspectives. In fact, I think it a very good thing that people here can see things so differently and still care.

On the referendum question, I have the perspective of it being about "them and us" and "we were here first", so you might guess that it has not made me a supporter.

Cheers

Foxy,

I pin you as a Labor supporter because you still support them and make excuses when they break every promise or their policies fail spectacularly.

"What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant."

Absolutely you nailed the greens in one.

Hi Fester,

I've actually respected you view on this referendum, there will be no victory for anyone, regardless of the outcome, not until the problems of inequality are resolved. The result will not be a time for either side to dance around the camp fire in celebration. There is no need to keep score as some want to do, we're leading 56/44, its not a footy match, its about peoples lives, and to trivialise it in that way is disingenuous.

Having contact with many Aboriginals people in the latter part of my working life, in inner city Sydney, and again now, and being married to an Indigenous (Maori) woman, with a lot of contact with her people over the years. What I can say is how surprising I find it that they (indigenous people) in general harbour no malice towards the Europeans for the wrongs of the past. Most are trying to get on with their lives in a modern world. Fortunately non-indigenous can sleep peacefully in their beds.

Village idiot,

Maori aren't indigenous to Australia.

Shadow Minister,

I did not raise the topic of extremism. I merely responded
to the person who did. Also as I stated - I was not
referring to any party but to people. I've never voted for
the Greens.

As for my supporting Labor? Not in everything. However
the Opposition certainly at the moment has not got much to
offer under their current leadership.

This may change with time of course.

Village idiot,

"Maori aren't indigenous to Australia" when did you discover that, such a revelation.

Come October 15th, and should the 'NO' vote prevail, will you be at the head of the 'Torch Light' procession into the Stadium, wearing your snappy black uniform? Me thinks so. Will you be voting a Big 'NO' from afar? Or maybe the Kiwi's have wised up and booted you out of Aotearoa, once and for all, back to Bigotsville.