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Farnham Gives You're the Voice song to the Voice to Parliament YES Campaign.
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Posted by ttbn, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:09:46 PM
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The CIS debate for and against the Voice : . The Centre for Independent Studies is a Sydney-based right-wing libertarian public-policy research think tank that focuses on classical liberal issues. The chairman of the CIS is Nicholas Moore AO, a former Chief Executive Officer of Macquarie Group. On 4 April 2023, the CIS hosted and broadcasted an Oxford-style adversarial debate on the motion “The Voice to Parliament is needed to address Indigenous matters.” Here are the two YES advocates : 1. Australia’s first Indigenous Senior Counsel, Anthony McAvoy 2. Constitutional lawyer and professor at Macquarie University, Shireen Morris Here are the two NO advocates : 1. Director of the Indigenous Forum at CIS, Nyunggai Warren Mundine 2. Country Liberal Senator for The Northern Territory and former Deputy-Mayor of Alice Springs, Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price . For those who may not have already seen the debate, here is a video of it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doKl7MUkRuM&ab_channel=CentreforIndependentStudies . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Saturday, 16 September 2023 1:39:24 AM
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A far right mouth piece, The Institute of Public Affairs has received legal advice from one of their own legal eagles that the Voice question could be unconstitutional. The answer is simple, if they believe that, then why not test it in the High Court.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 14 September 2023 5:47:15 AM Answer- In reference to the comment "A far right mouth piece". I believe that Paul1405 is the extremist. If you label everyone right of Trotsky as far right- and normal people believe it- you have moved the centre to extreme left communist totalitarianism- this is moving the Overton Window. Not sure what principles Paul1405 would consider to be moderate- making the local bakery a state entity and forcing people to eat the sub standard produce. Having peoples courts in the town square like Mao or the BLM movement. Releasing drug dealers on the street like in California to sell drugs to your children. Let Paul1405 create his own community with his friends and see it crash and burn. If the BLM people want to live according to their own principles then let them- just don't expect us to help them when they fail. Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 16 September 2023 1:57:39 AM
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Some of the Forums old fellas, would be well familiar with Prime Minister George Reid 1904/1905. George was known as "Yes No George", for his annoying habit of saying YES, and then arguing NO. Well, "Yes No George" has returned in the form of "Yes No Pete". Good old Pete is saying YES to a referendum one minute then saying NO the next. The poor fool just can't make up his mind, YES we should have a referendum, NO we shouldn't have a referendum. Now should we call Dud Dutton "Maybe Pete". Agree?
Haters from the NO side have been targeting Linda Burney with outrages racists hate speak. The Nolition launched a number of unfounded attacks on Linda during Question Time this week. Hate speak only fuels the extremists! Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 15 September 2023 4:32:43 PM Answer- Paul1405 sounds fairly misandrist (against men) and ageist (against older people) here. Sadly sometimes staying on your horse and refusing to get down in the mud doesn't work. Sometimes maybe you just have to through mud. So here it goes "I think Paul1405 is the hater". Communists have tried for one hundred years to separate the old from the young in order to sow division in otherwise strong and stable communities for their own sweaty power dreams. But Stalin and Mao were perhaps oversexed. As the poster said "Thank you Stalin for my wonderful childhood." Reminds me of school "Pedo Freak Story Hour" and "Critical Race Theory" cultural nihilism (Dostoevsky warned us). Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 16 September 2023 2:13:07 AM
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I grew up in the Western suburbs of Sydney. My parents both worked hard. They worked in factories because their qualifications were not recognised. Dad worked in a rubber factory - and worked double shifts to pay the bills. It was blood, sweat, and tears. He had a young family to support as well as mum's elderly parents. He had a hard life. And worked hard. He died of a massive coronary at the age of 52. Mum managed. It was not an easy life for anyone. I managed to study - while working full-time and raising a family. This wasn't easy either. Nobody gave me anything. I also worked hard for it all. Your reference to me and just libraries is not accurate. I worked in a variety of jobs across two continents. I achieved what I did through hard work and merit.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 September 2023 7:15:30 PM Answer- In simple terms you were given something- the most important thing of all- The Australian Government gave your parents a country but it wasn't their's to give because they never had a mandate in my view. But you don't seem to have the good grace to honour this precious gift even though it may have been stolen. It's interesting when communists appeal to merit when it suits themselves- but I suppose that's one of the lessons of Hebrew Communist and Mentor of Hillary Clinton "Saul Alinsky". Kudos to Shadowminister for the word "boondoggle" Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 16 September 2023 2:24:53 AM
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Hi Foxy,
Your parents sound typical of the many migrants, who made their way to Australia in the hope of making a better life for themselves and their families. Hard working aspirational folk who made good through hard work and determination under very difficult circumstance. GOOD ON THEM! I'm sure your parents would be very proud of their daughter and her achievements in life, and thankful that in no small part they contributed to your success. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 16 September 2023 6:07:54 AM
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We have always know what types of characters they are. But, I grant you that their desperation has has been more apparent than usual, particularly that of the instigator, who confessed to being depressed about half way through by the 'nasty' posts. 'Nastiness being anything that doesn't go her way. She was consoled by a poster who always sucks up to her, and she was ever so grateful.
You've got her on the run. She tells you she doesn't want you to address anything to her anymore. She's pulled that one before, but she somehow manages to recover because she is too self-righteousness, and cannot believe that anyone should disagree with her.
I ignore her most of the time, but I still like a bit of fun occasionally, and she is easy to get going. There is always fun to be had with people who believe that they know better than everyone else. Self-opinionated, but totally self-unaware people.