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Farnham Gives You're the Voice song to the Voice to Parliament YES Campaign.
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Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 14 September 2023 7:39:03 PM
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I get the impression that implicit in the yes campaign are the ideas that indigenous problems can only be solved by indigenous people, and that guilt is both inheritable and transferable across a heritage group. It would at least explain why those preschool kids were being made to write sorry cards. But by far the biggest obstacle for the yes campaign is the wonderful Senator Price. "A consort battleship." as Henry Higgins might observe.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 14 September 2023 7:45:18 PM
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"ME" or will it be about all of - "ÜS.
Foxy, The Voice is about" Us & Them ". Don't you ever tire of being wrong ? Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 14 September 2023 8:01:45 PM
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Hi Fester,
No, the problems confronting our indigenous brothers and sisters can only be solved through a collective effort from Australians as a whole. What has been a failure in the past has been a; "white man knows best" attitude, that despite some very good intentions has in itself been a failure. Some now realise that Aboriginal input to problem solving is essential. Aboriginal people themselves with 'The Uluru Statement from the Heart' have made a modest request for recognition and input through a Voice to parliament, enshrined within the Constitution. I have no problem with that. "guilt is both inheritable and transferable across a heritage group" Non-aboriginal Australia has a collective guilt, not individual guilt, for wrongs perpetrated against Aboriginal people in the past, and some have compounded that guilt through denial, and the use of mitigation to justify past actions. That is why truth telling is important, you can't move on without the truthful recognition of the past. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 14 September 2023 8:47:39 PM
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Hi Paul,
An understanding of history, very true, but empathy and equality are very much terms of human interaction, so exist in the present, not in the past. Also, if one believes in collective guilt, then on might also believe in collective victim hood. In her speech today, I thought that Senator price rose above all the stereotyping and came across as an intelligent and well spoken person. I saw in her everything that the Voice could hope to achieve, and she certainly is not a supporter of it. Posted by Fester, Thursday, 14 September 2023 9:30:03 PM
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Dear Indyvidual, . You asked : « Did this ANU researcher give any explanation as to what the reasons are ? » . No, the test is for unconscious bias. People tested are usually unaware of their prejudices. The ANU researcher carried out the tests using the Implicit Association Test designed by a joint initiative of universities including Harvard, Yale and the University of Sydney. The "implicit bias" of over 11,000 Australian participants over a 10-year period was tested and analysed. Here is an article with a brief explanation published by the Australian National University : http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/three-in-four-people-hold-negative-view-of-indigenous-people . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 15 September 2023 3:19:23 AM
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Nice to see the Forum's silly old Rumpelstiltskin dancing around the fire screaming "I've won! I've won!... they can't catch me I'm Rumpelstiltskin!" The blokes an idiot.