Hi Foxy,

The redneck racists are frothing at the mouth; "How dare they give those Darkies a say in the decision making process on matters affecting them! The Whitman always know what't best, its so unfair!" Yet for almost 200 years the same rednecks were happy to exclude first nations people from even being recognised as part of Australia's make up. That's why I find their arguments against the Voice as being rather hypocritical.

Wow, Foxy shows she DOES know how to do quotes....even the ones she doesn't understand.

Foxy speaks to herself believing this nonsense -
"The Voice represents an end to the colonial exclusion
of Indigenous people from the fabric of the nation.
Sadly, some people don't want this to change."

All aboriginals without exclusion who have entered modern society benefit from colonial institutions including arts, and sports.

I fully support tribal land rights where aboriginals have continually lived on their lands and practiced their culture. However, those that have adopted Western lifestyles do not have continuing occupation of their cultural lands and continuing live culture.

Aussie Anne
9 September at 19:49 ·
—facts of Aboriginal History
•Dot painting was invented in 1971 by Geoffrey Bardon who then taught the style to aborigines. •There are no dot paintings in caves.
•The Welcome to Country Ceremony was invented in 1976 by Ernie Dingo and Richard Walley to welcome Maori performers.
•There is no aboriginal word for a Welcome To Country like the Maori's Haka.
•How can it be an 'ancient Ceremony' if there is no word for it.
•How could someone say 'Who's going to perform the welcome to country ceremony’?
•The Acknowledgement of Country was invented in the 1990s.
•The Smoking Ceremony is also a recent invention.
•There is no film or video evidence of any of these ceremonies at important events such as royal tours, the 1956 Olympics etc., prior to the 1970s & 1990s.
•’ Walkabout; is also considered an offensive term, since it implies someone is lazy or laye, despite it being an integral part of initiation ceremonies.
•The' oldest living culture' is not just factually incorrect, it defies logic.
•The branch of the tree cannot be older than the tree itself.
•Humans evolved in Africa.
•There are African tribes who live exactly as they did 100,000 years ago, without mobile phones, 4WDs, or welfare, etc.
•Aborigines are descended from these tribes as humans moved out of Africa around the world.
—As such, Aboriginal culture cannot possibly be older than the cultures from which it evolved.

What screwed up logic is behind this;

"I fully support tribal land rights where aboriginals have continually lived on their lands and practiced their culture. However, those that have adopted Western lifestyles do not have continuing occupation of their cultural lands and continuing live culture."

I get it, first the colonial invader forces the indigenous off their land, placing the land into the colonisers possession . Then the coloniser places the displaced people into his world, alas being at the bottom of the social-economic ladder. The displaced has to work for, and rely upon the coloniser and his decedents for his existence. Then when the indigenous tries to justly retake the land his forebears were disposed of, the cry from the colonisers decedents is "Sorry darkie your too late, your relative shouldn't have given up the land in the first place!" Good one Proud Boy.

Dear Paul,

Primarily the Voice is about recognition.
And recognition that will pave the way for real
change. Recognising our Indigenous as the First
People of this nation is in itself an important
thing and will say a lot about who we are as a
nation.

That's why it is so exciting that we've finally
arrived at this juncture. I am so glad to be
alive to witness it.

Prof. Marcia Langton said it beautifully:

"I want everybody to wake up after the Referendum and
feel proud to be Australian and to know that we
have taken this extra step. To draw the line in the
sand with our colonial past, embedded in our Constitution
and empower Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people
as the First Peoples to have a say in our own
futures by making representations through the Voice
on laws and policies that affect us."

As for what some are trying to do on this discussion.?
Don't read what they post. They are not important enough or
relevant to worry about. They frankly don't matter at all.
And will end up on the dung heap of history. The country
will move on without them.