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Complete backdown on ban on ivermectin?

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Hasbeen says: "So the big money finally got to them too."

Wrong again - big science, big medical research and big best practice got to them.
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 10:23:51 AM
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"India's successes in response to CV-19 are attributed to the public health response not ivermectin."

Who says? And what exactly was the 'public' response? We can see, feel, touch ivermectin; but 'public response' is a lot harder to identify. Perhaps taking ivermectin was part of that response.

No matter: we look like heading for the same charade again. Big Pharma needs another pandemic to push more you-beaut vaccines, and as Yuyutsu points out, government needs more of the control it got hooked on last time.

The real threat is government, not some sniffle that was invented for vaccine production.

People have proved that they are stupid enough to cop all the inconvenience,loss of freedoms and more control over their lives at any time Big Brother and Big Pharma want to inflict them upon them.

People are also too stupid to twig that influenza disappeared during the Covid reign. Oldies who have been dying every year since year dot, stopped dying of influenza and started dying of the "new" Covid.

We have every reason to believe the contention that Covid is just the flu with another name.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 11:55:29 AM
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The whole Ivermectin saga is emblematic of the way science and the media have been suborned to politics. The main reason Ivermectin was banned was that it was initially advocated by Trump and that was the kiss of death. If Trump had come out against Ivermectin, science and the media would have been decrying that also.

The notion that Ivermectin was banned because "there was a health risk associated with people taking ivermectin in an attempt to prevent infection rather than getting vaccinated" as claimed by WTF is clearly bunkum. Ivermectin was banned long before a vaccine was even close to being available.

There has been a campaign by politicised science to discredit the efficacy of Ivermectin by less than honest 'studies'. The claim for Ivermectin was always that it was a prophylactic in that it was best used prior to infection. Yet many studies were done giving the drug to people who already had WuFlu and then, when it didn't cure the infection, they declared the drug ineffective.

But studies where the drug was given to people prior to infection showed that it was indeed effective in reducing the incidence of infection, in this study up to 92%.

http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36196304/
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 1:29:46 PM
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The Therapeutic Good Administration (TGA) has banned the
anti-parasitic drug from being prescribed for illnesses not
described in its licence because it is concerned people
(anti-vaccers) are taking the medication instead of
approved treatment or having the covid vaccines.

The drug is used as a livestock de-wormer and its use has
increased between 3 and 4 times in recent months.

It's become prominent in some anti- vaccine circles in
recent weeks following unfounded claims on social media
as an effective treatment for the coronavirus.

The IGA said there were concerns over possible shortages for
the drug's intended uses such as parasitic infections.

Why on earth would any rational person not listen to medical
professionals? Makes no sense.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 2:16:00 PM
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ttbn states: "Who says?"

Well the report "Uttar Pradesh: state governance and response in COVID-19 pandemic." says.

ttbn states: " Perhaps taking ivermectin was part of that response."

Well of course it was part of the response.

If you had read and comprehended Hassben's post it is obvious that ivermectin was distributed in Uttar Pradesh that forms an essential part of Hasbeen's argument.

And this is all the report has to say about it "The state government gave the order to distribute free Ivermectin tablets to the affected COVID-19 patients." No further details.

Invermectin is mentioned once only in the report and far more importance is placed on other responses.

Hasbeen goes on to say "...as claimed by WTF is clearly bunkum."

Wrong yet again this information comes from the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

While ivermectin may have been part of the initial response the Indian government now saids not to use it for CV-19.

Why? Because the research says "...clinical studies show... no benefit in treating COVID.”
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 2:25:42 PM
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I'm with Hasbeen on this, I want the Ivermectin.
What was the dosage on your ivermectin tablets Hasbeen, just out of curiosity?

The whole thing was a cash cow for pharmacuetical companies, who have sent many to an early grave.
It put nations into billions of debt (loans with interest) and very nearly sacrificed our sovereignty to the WHO.

The government couldn't even manage quarantine right.
The whole thing was a debacle, they even placed gag orders on doctors.

Mexico even had Ivermectin AND hydroxychloroquine in vending machines, apparently.

Mexico City gave ivermectin to thousands of covid patients. Officials face an ethics backlash.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/09/mexico-city-covid-ivermectin/

Ivermectin, Mexico, Peru, India
http://youtu.be/NJSUKDng_Ww?si=liGkeU-D1a3ABcHh
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 2:28:44 PM
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