Indy,

You attack people who are trying to make a difference for our indigenous brothers and sisters and for others. You paint them as "Go Getters" with ulterior motives, incompetents out for their own ends, the 'gravy train' syndrome, you are so cynical of all those "not like YOU". You want others punished for their crime of being different to YOU, with boot camps for the young, and sackings for the unworthy etc. I might be wrong, but you think you have a mortgage on being right, but YOU are defiantly wrong in your assessment and attitude towards so many other Australians. Australians young and old, black and white, male and female, gay and straight, conservative and progressive, by and large are decent people, they don't need an old bloke like you condemning them at very turn. Can you say anything positive about anyone except yourself?

Paul1405,
Easy solution, prove me wrong !

Paul1405,
Tell us, do you think it is right that people of Malay, Chinese, Irish, Solomon Island, New Caledonia, Samoa etc first heritage brought here by British manipulators can suddenly claim to be indigenous yet Caucasians born here fourth & more generations are deemed non-Australian ?
There were no Australians before the British grabbed this continent, the indigenous inhabitants were made up of many clans, they weren't Nations ! Even today they can't understand each others language. You'll of course say this is racist but I'm saying this is what is going on but you et al are desperately trying to portray a picture or situation that isn't & never was ! Because it doesn't sit well with your opportunistic racist bleating all you have to fall back on is racist bleating. get out out there & experience for yourself. There are many decent people out there of varied heritage who don't bleat racism because they're of better mentality & character than you !

Paul1405,
Even the so-called civilizations from around the Globe weren't Nations, they were Kingdoms & Empires before they became Nations as we understand nowadays.
The Aborigines were family groups who roamed the country with the seasons on which they were totally dependent. This was a system that worked quite well for most but it was a long way short of falling into the category of Nations. It was a basic day by day existence. Many accept that except the activists who try to change history either bad or good, as long as it gives them power they can't handle & utterly undeserved money taken from those who need it !.

The Yes case is all motherhood statements that should be happening NOW. It will not change by putting it in the Constitution, it demonstrates how poorly aboriginal Affairs Ministers are performing in their roles.

The yes case claim it is up to us to make the changes for aboriginal welfare, when we are not responsible for anything more than we already do for everyone. They have as much personal responsibility for their lives as any of us; and many aboriginals have grasped personal responsibility and have achieved equal to any in society. It indicates a failure of Governments to take responsibility for poor outcomes.

The NO case.
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