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Sweden Blinks

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Yes, Sweden has discovered the concept that the renewable energy lobby pretends not to know: Dispatchable power. The reality is that dispatchable nuclear energy is cheaper than non-dispatchable renewables.

https://www.oecd-nea.org/lcoe/
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 8:52:01 PM
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"Wrong terminology"

My thinking here is that most western governments are aware that the whole renewable cult cannot do what is claimed for it, but none want to admit that the mantra over the last decade is all smoke and mirrors.

It's a perfect example of the emperor's new clothes syndrome where they don't want to say the obvious lest they be called the dreaded 'denier'. So governments push ahead in unison.

Sweden blinked in regards to being the first to say what is obvious to all.

I don't know how these governments see the end-game. Perhaps they just hope they, personally, will have moved on when the sh!t hits the fan, or perhaps they just hope for some technologic break-through to save the day (eg http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/breakthrough-experiment-beams-solar-power-from-space/ar-AA1cyKri).
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 11:13:38 AM
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Thanks O Sung Wu. Hope you're well mate.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 29 June 2023 1:29:21 AM
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Dear mhaze,

Bloody hell mate you just can’t help yourself can you. I know you have a willing audience here on OLO when you post rubbish like this but you at least have half a brain so when does self-respect come into it?

Sweden doesn’t need to “go nuclear” they already are doing it with a solid amount of their energy mix coming from nuclear power plants.
Nuclear power production pretty much matches their vast hydro reserves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Sweden#/media/File:Electricity_production_in_Sweden.svg

It is a standout country. From a peak of 114 million metric tonnes of CO2 per annum it now only produces 40.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/449823/co2-emissions-sweden/

We should be proud of any attempt to emulate their dramatic success.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:28:38 PM
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SR,

The Swedish government said of the new policy ".”This creates the conditions for nuclear power. We need more electricity production, we need clean electricity and we need a stable energy system.”.

But what would they know?

This'll probably go over your head, but the policy change is from 100% renewable energy to 100% fossil-fuel free energy. And the only way to get there is by increasing nuclear power plants.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 29 June 2023 1:44:50 PM
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Dear mhaze,

You already said that.

So why do you imagine it detracts from a single point I made? None of which I hastened to say you have in anyway addressed.

Keep in mind this change came after the hard right party gain the largest number of seats in 2022 and a huge say in the subsequent coalition.

So the change in policy was largely ideological wasn't it and not a statement on the capacity to do it entirely through renewables. The net zero targets remain however. This would not something we would see with a Dutton government.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 29 June 2023 7:26:25 PM
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