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Coal for Japan, But Not for Australia

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What a stupid topic based on yet another false premise trotted out by the inane.

Japan's per capita coal use in 2021 in power units was 10,694 kWh per person.

Australia's figure is 17,475 kWh per person. We are the 4th highest in the world.

http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/coal-consumption-per-capita?tab=table

Time to move on people.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:14:48 PM
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Time to move on people.
SteeleRedux,
How do you think Australian Island communities are powering their cars, boats, air conditioners, willy nilly travel, homes & TV’s etc ?
Solar you think ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 25 May 2023 7:13:38 PM
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SteeleRedux,
It’s utterly illogical & purely academic to compare such figures per person ! It is a well known albeit it not to you, fact that longer distances & remoteness increase such figures whereas in tightly packed countries like Japan such figures naturally are lower due to logistics. Do you know what logistics are, they’re real facts not just some academic theory !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 28 May 2023 8:49:09 AM
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Hey Ipso Fatso,

Spotlight on solar panels in draft drive to recycle and reduce landfill
- Queensland will consult on a proposal to ban the dumping of end-of-life solar panels in landfill
http://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/97303

If they are proposing a ban on dumping them into landfill within 10 years, then that says that many are being dumped into landfill within 10 years.

Scientists believe they've found a way to recycle solar panels | ABC News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlweV5SaIqU
"Australia has one of the world's largest uptakes of solar panels, but finding a way to recycle them has so far proved difficult and expensive."

"At the moment it's cheaper to put them into landfill"

- I think the whole thing is stupid.
Find some big piece of unused land adjacent to linking into the power grid, hook them up, and leave them there to keep on producing power until they're down to 10% output, then replace them with more second hand panels with 90% output.

Whats the cost to the environment just to manufacture them?
Why waste something that can still produce power, just got to hook them up - think of it as a place where solar panels can live out their final days and still produce power, as they were meant to do.

Beaurecrats are incompetent and stupid.
All it takes is a scheme put in place and these panels would still be producing power and not going into landfill.
Doing so might even provide a few jobs as well.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 28 May 2023 1:41:24 PM
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The biggest joke is the banning of nuclear power in Australia. I found it strange that the CSIRO ignored ANSTO and pretty much every long life nuclear power plant, then selected parameters to make it look as expensive as they could. Further, they compare dispatchable costs with non-dispatchable costs to make wind and solar appear cheap, effectively comparing apples oranges, something that no other developed nation does.

Australian energy providers should be considering repurposing existing power plants for nuclear generation instead of blowing them up. I think that the renewable energy lobby is fervently anti-nuclear as nuclear power plants have been in existence long enough to demonstrate actual costs for dispatchable power below that of wind and solar. CSIRO is helping them with their deception.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 28 May 2023 2:03:10 PM
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SteeleRedux once again reminds us of his brilliance by declaring the topic "stupid", and its creator "inane". What a towering intellectual he is.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 28 May 2023 3:39:50 PM
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