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Albo's Racist Voice Will Fail, Go Lidia!

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Langton said, unless decisions made could not be challenged in the High Court the Voice will be meaningless.

Here again is the real Marcia Langton who believes aboriginals are not a race, that they are living of fear of genocide. Well Lydia Thorpe has heard Marcia's message, "They are killing our children, and raping our women. This is war" The Voice has been motivated by fear, rather than inclusion.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/marcia-langton-says-details-on-the-voice-to-parliament/13993960

Professor Greg Craven, a staunch supporter of the Voice and adviser to the referendum working group, has decided that, yes, indeed, by including advice not just to Parliament but to the executive government as well, there is an undoubted potential for litigation: Craven writes (paywalled)

The concept of the voice has always centred upon legislation, which could never be obstructed by views from the voice. That is why it usually is called the “voice to parliament”. But it does include executive action as well. This has become a problem.

During the past few months, there have been suggestions that executive action could be challenged through the voice. Notably, two eminent former High Court judges with very different views of the voice – Ken Hayne and Ian Callinan – have each suggested executive action might be open to attack. Right or wrong, the issue has been launched.

http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/the-voice/2023/02/thank-you-marcia-langton-for-your-candour/
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 25 February 2023 3:51:54 PM
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Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 25 February 2023 4:04:10 PM
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Hi Foxy,

Just like with the gay marriage plebiscite, the same old irrelevant wingers like Proud Boy Jose' will tells us a "yes" vote will see the sky fall in. Like then, he and those of his ilk will peddle lies and misinformation, they have no argument, just a line of bigoted and racists deceitfulness. This bloke like others here claim concern for aboriginal people, nothing could be further from the truth.

BTW, there are those who do have genuine concerns, and do require additional information, which will be forthcoming in the next week or two, before they can commit to a "yes" vote, but they are a minority within the minority. Like the Cow Cocky Party, Dutton is not one of them, he's looking for an "out", the fliest of reasons to oppose, and we'll soon see his true colours.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 25 February 2023 5:01:02 PM
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Most Australians do support The Voice!
Foxy,
Most Australians can't foresee & to set something that has the high potential of becoming a very divisive social & economic failure in stone is as unwise as most previous decisions in that field.
If the incumbent activists were not to be involved then yes, the Voice could be beneficial, alas !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 26 February 2023 8:17:32 AM
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Hi Paul,

If only people could see that this needs to be given a chance.
And that this will evolve with time. This is early days
and we need to give it a chance. Our Indigenous people deserve
it as does our nation.

indyvidual,

Things can improve and change if we give it a chance.
We're voting for an advisory body here. And that is
something our Indigenous deserve and so does our nation.
You can't be that small-minded or greedy and just thinking
of yourself. They told us what they want from their hearts
we need to give them a chance from ours.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 26 February 2023 8:58:15 AM
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Dear Paul,

We know that in July 2021 the Indigenous Voice
Co-Design Process Panel released its final report.

It proposed that the Voice "have a responsibility and
right to ADVISE the Australian parliament and government
on national matters of significance to Aboriginal and
Torres Strait Islander people".

The Voice would be able to table formal
advice to parliament and a parliamentary committee would
CONSIDER that advice.

But all elements would be non-justiciable, meaning that
there could NOT be a court challenge and NO law could be
invalidated based on this consultation.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 26 February 2023 10:41:09 AM
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