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Albo's Racist Voice Will Fail, Go Lidia!

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SM,

There is no proposal for 'The Voice' to have veto powers over legislation WHAT SO EVER! You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. You like Dutton are scratching around looking for any excuse to oppose. Dutton with his "I must have answers before I commit" is the known racists trying to find an excuse.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 February 2023 7:20:33 AM
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A problem Foxy and Paul might instantly dismiss:

This is the Need to alter the current Referendum Wording. Or an expert lawyer advising the [Voice Referendum Labor picked] committee advises "THE REFERENDUM WILL BE LOST"

See below

The ABC reports 16 Feb 2023 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-16/voice-working-group-at-odds-over-referendum-wording/101984466

"...The words "executive government" are proving a sticking point in the proposed constitutional amendment to recognise and create a Voice for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians.

The [mainly Labor leaning] referendum working group, the government’s main advisory body, met on Thursday to consider what advice it would give to the federal government on the wording of the question and constitutional amendment for a referendum.

One expert lawyer advising the committee has recommended removing the wording "executive government" altogether, and is understood to have said if those words remain the referendum will be lost..."
Posted by Maverick, Sunday, 19 February 2023 8:23:25 AM
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Hi Maverick,

Thank you for the link.

It's a shame that the Coalition appears to be trying
to damage the process.

It's clear that the removal of "executive government" from
the proposed wording would significantly weaken the power
and scope of the Voice. It's crucial that the Voice does have
the power to advice government at the highest level including
advising bureaucrats working on laws and policies.

The given link makes that abundently clear.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 19 February 2023 10:12:04 AM
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Hi Mavs,

Thanks for the link, I see no problem with what is a "work in progress" from the 'Referendum Working Group', naturally there is debate and expert opinion on legal matters concerning draft recommendations to consider. Getting the wording correct is a necessity, and changers are certain until the wording is acceptable. People like the racists Dutton have their guns at the ready to shoot down this referendum at any opportunity. .
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 February 2023 10:36:44 AM
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We are assuming that aboriginals have no voice in government and foxy perpetuates this lie. There are many voices already in parliament, but Albo is too ignorant to listen to them. He wants his appointed Voice. This is more than an advisory body as advisory bodies already exist. It is a body that will give direction to the Government on things like Treaty and repatriations.

"What is wrong with having an advisory body on their
behalf to parliament on policies and programs that
affect only them. Wouldn't this be more effective
than making decisions for them? So far this hasn't
worked.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday,
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 19 February 2023 4:39:19 PM
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josephus,

" Representation is an essential first step towards
reconciliation. While there are some forms of
representative bodies in Australia such as land councils,
First Peoples Assembly of Victoria and the Torres Strait
Regional Authority the totality of Indigenous representation
remains fragmented".

"This is why we need to support a Constitutional
Amendment to enshrine a First Nations Voice which is an
essential part of recognition, representation, and
reconciliation".

"Further, the referendum should support an amendment to
recognize Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples as
Australia's First People thus marking a first towards
recognition and truth-telling about Australian history".
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 19 February 2023 5:37:43 PM
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