Tony Abbott has been given a severe public lecturing on the evils of publicly lecturing people about how they should live their lives. He has been told in no uncertain terms what views he should be allowed to hold concerning sexual behaviour by people who claim that nobody has the right to impose their moral values on others. Who are the real hypocrites here?

Runner,

You think *my* fist is puny, what about yours?

Oh yes, those "little pieces of paper". Having some, I know what they represent in study and hard work. They don't just hand them out like those Jack Chick comic books you get your "opinion" from (does it really deserve even that much respect?). Study harder.

Regarding genuine theologians: I guess you *would* call them liberal theologians. *I* call them highly educated and therefore "liberal" christians as an unavoidable consequence. You might try it sometime. Say, *how* long was pastor in some bible-training compound before they let him out? Was he allowed phone calls?

*my* conscience is fine. When a person is so obviously motivated by fear of an irrational "god" as you are, *then* the rot sets in. Fix it, you bludger.

I notice it only became "snobbery" when it became clear you could not co-opt the gravitas for your own position.

Rusty