rstuart, one of the things that came out of the Climate Gate emails was that the temperature data had been so poorly kept that after three years the programmer tasked with the job of replicating the plots gave up in despair.

It's worth noting that while there was software involved, it is a fairly simple task, nothing like as complex as modelling the climate.

There's not a lot of demand from people to check my polling data, but I know if anyone ever asked there is a good clean set of data for every poll.

I agree that the science in some of these areas is beyond shoddy. I bet some of them keep their tax records better than their climate records.

Hi,

You mean to say Graham that the program used was inadequate? They were paid to provide evidence for Global warming... they failed...

Regarding the comment on China, they are hopping mad, but are planning
to link into the Russian Grid to supplement their electricity supply.

How much monies have been poorly spent to prove their science is flawed. If no one checked them out, where would we be now. Climate change is not happening, other than what we normally expect. CO2 emissions reductions other than local pollution, will not
help. It's a big big con, and Al Gore should be sued and the IPCC
for fudging data. This Himalayan glacier farce is criminal. I see
the Indian Government are taking action against the Chairman of the IPCC.

As far as the science is concerned and temperature graphs, they are part of any climate orientated Uni course or related studies, such as
environmental studies, archaeology and palaeoanthropology and geology.

Arjay,
I found the organisation for Monkton's talk OK.
The site where I saw the info said $20 paid at the door.
I did get there early as I was in the city anyway and got done
the other things I had to do quicker than expected.
I did not see anything about door time, just that it started at 5-30.
I think they kept it low in price because they may have thought not
too many would turn up. I did hear that the queue went around two
floors of stairs, out through the lobby and into the street.

I found what he had to say very interesting and he has challenged to
debate some of those on the other side, but no one will accept it.
Mind you I wouldn't either, he is a very impressive speaker.
He was of course preaching to the converted.

One little point that did impress me was that the earth has been
warming for the last 300 years since the peak of the Maunder minimum.
Obvious of course but I had not thought of it.
Another point was that Al Gore has bought a waterfront property on
San Francisco Bay ! Hmmmm.

Even very pro ADW people would have found it interesting.
It appears that there are some very serious fraud investigations
going on at the IPCC.
Well that is a bit of a summary.

As far as I know there was only one politician and one journalist in
attendance. There was a cameraman running around but he might have
been making a video to be distributed. It did not look like a news
TV crew. They apparently thought it was not newsworthy.

Thanks Bazz.The poor organisation is not a reflection upon C Monckton.I think they should know since there were many irate people left in their wake and that is not good PR if you are trying to build supporting numbers.

I notice that the pop media have given Monckton the cold shoulder.They are too scared of the truth and will not enter into debate.We should all remember this event and be resolved not to buy their woeful excuse for unbiased reporting.

Yes Arjay, I don't think they were expecting such a massive rollup.
Certainly the hotel security seemed very agitated and just not knowing
where to get people to stand in the queue.
It looks like the Town Hall or the Opera House would have been a better bet.

Well the disinterest of the media and government in the anti AGW
discussion has the same aura about it as the attitude of the
government and media have to peak oil.
I have only ever heard one government minister utter the words peak
oil and that was Martin Ferguson, but that was a couple of years ago
and he seems to have now got the message.
It is interesting that world wide politicians and media all maintain
the same stance. Ignore peak oil and anti AGW.
It is only recently that antiAGW has got off the ground.
I am not a conspiracy nut, but well you have to wonder.

The media is showing a slow response, but Google Miranda Devine of the SMH she had a very good article in the SMH last week. I believe fromthe JoNova blog, that at one of the meetings, someone was filming the debate in Brisbane I believe. The Climate change speaker was outclassed
I believe. And it was videoed by a freelance photographer who reckoned
it was aimed for the ABC? Hope they buy it. Doesn't stop PM Rudd
from pushing on with the ETS bill with amendments. However, Tony Abbott said, his amended ETS bill will contain no taxes? Why don't they all start to consider, climate change or not, and not is the obvious, is fraught with flaws. Why not concentrate on sustainability. Simple as that. I installed a 5000 litre rain water tank, linked to one toilet and washing machine. The cost was just under 2000 dollars. I got $1400 back from the State government and $500 from the Feds. But the projection of 35 million population by 2050 is rather frightening don't you believe, all concentrated on the Eastern coastal regions. Flannery for once had something sensible to say, 'proceed with caution' we haven't the water supply to accommodate
the number we have now, if we continue with our present life style.