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The 'global warming' scam: a crime against humanity : Comments

By Christopher Monckton, published 11/1/2010

The big lie peddled by the UN is the notion that a doubling of CO2 concentration will cause as much as 2-4.5C of 'global warming'.

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I have questioned some of the attitudes you express protorgas. If you want to argue about CFC's it is still not proven they destroy the ozone level. Now point me to Prof.Plimer's suggestion that volcanoes spew out CFC's. You have to argue that he lied that the volcano he picked to mention did spew out Clorine whatever more than the
CFC's that are human contributed. Personally I feel you all are afraid that Prof Plimer and Lord Monckton have more to promote the lies that the climate change promotion by Al Gore et al now you are trying to discredit them for it. A counter argument is not enough I'm afraid. Show me where he said CFC's were spewed out by that volcano, or did you twist what he said?

I have studied it, I have found that some of the suggestions proffered
are not consistent to my knowledge, now I'm no scientist, but if I'm
no scientist then I have learned from scientists at University that don't agree with the Al Gore referendums. Since 1998. There
has always been doubt...now it has been found the whole science or basis for this hysterical politically motivated almost fundimentalist
or religious movement associated with Climate Change, C02 emissions is not only doubtful from scientific corrupted data, but
a big fat lie! So don't get on your high horse, nit pick and then accuse me of doubting what we are supposed to swallow without question. We aren't ignorant fools without education ... However nor do I feel we should do nothing to right some of the environmental abuse that serves to degradate our planet.
Posted by Bush bunny, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 2:28:03 AM
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Protagoras - Your statement only reinforces my argument merely lessening the "unrecognised warming" time by a few years. Keeling's paper was not about Global Warming and said nothing about being caused by industrialisation. That is all your hype.

Keeling placed his CO2 probe atop of an active volcano, Mauna Loa, which erupted 33 times between 1954 and 1983, and has been erupting continuously since 1983.

Very questionable science, but then that's what this whole sham is based upon.
Posted by Atman, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:08:32 AM
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Protagoras - Had to post again so quickly as I just realised your argument is a complete and not a partial scam.

In response to my question about why Scientists only became "aware" of the drastic 160 yr temperature increase 25 yrs or so ago you quoted a 1960's graph measuring CARBON DIOXIDE (atop an active volcano!) not TEMPERATURE.

Must say very typical of the baseless arguments pro AGW people present.

My question remains unanswered.
Posted by Atman, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:56:09 AM
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Protagoras, your error is common.

Plimer is right, although he attributed it to the incorrect source. Understandable in the first edition of a book with 2300 footnotes.

The following is a quote from Timothy Casey, a geologist who has researched the topic:

“In spite of numerous erroneous academic assertions, CFCs are naturally occurring chemicals and are a significant component of active volcanism. Volcanic CFCs are emitted in the presence of compounds that raise the residence time of volcanic halogens in addition to intensifying their ozone damaging effect. This would suggest that volcanoes have had a significant impact on the ozone layer.”

His basis is set out at:

http://cfc.geologist-1011.net/

The comments on this thread do not take a steady course. The point of this article is that the global warming scam is based on pretend science, and on the ceaseless efforts by scientists involved to corrupt information as it becomes available.

There has been no warming since 1998, and there has been cooling since 2001. CO2 has increased throughout the period, while temperature has declined.

There have been frantic efforts to hide the decline, and both Hadley and NOOA present the information on temperature in a misleading way, differently to the way it was presented by them during the warming years up to 1998.

Copenhagen was the latest step in this massive attempted fraud, and its failure seems to have redoubled the efforts of the supporters of the fraud, rather than discouraged them.

Geoff Davies has written an OLO article asserting that the Hadley emails do not mean what they say, and the scientists were simply doing their job.

No one is able to show that human emissions have any discernible effect. They are an insignificant part of the same carbon cycle which has been run by Nature for millions of years. They do not justify any proposition to tax the Western world, or to run trading schemes in spurious carbon credits to enrich Gore and the UN.
Posted by Leo Lane, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:11:12 AM
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well well well, Plimer didn't lie about CFCs.

So he's not a liar, on that count, and I'm sure protagoros will be big enough to post an apology. A lot of the "believosphere" seems cluttered with all these clumsy attempts to drag down any "heretic's" reputation, what a waste of effort.

The "believosphere" looks worse, day by day, for the supposed science they grimly try to support.

It means that the entire science is flawed if we have reached this point, what with glacial melt predictions now based on comments off the cuff to journalists ending up in IPCC reports, it is a farce.

We'll probably see them glom onto this even harder, even as the yellow stuff sticks to their faces eh?
Posted by odo, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:46:00 AM
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Must say my original text was both entered apparently but was scrubbed out because it didn't make the grade.

Anyhow here goes again.

If man wants to make the grade in the future world, he'd better treat the whole world more kindly, otherwise he will find the world not being so kindly to him.

Probably just commonsense will do it, but all one mostly finds is one mind trying to destroy the other.
Posted by bushbred, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 6:07:51 PM
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