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Copenhagen's reality check : Comments

By Michael Hitchens, published 6/1/2010

Copenhagen demonstrated that Australia’s emissions pledges have no influence on the world’s advanced countries.

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Another voice calling for Australia to do the least it can get away with rather than the most it's capable of. This is a weak attempt to justify doing next to nothing about an issue that will impact Australia for long into the future and much harder than most.

Only by disregarding - or disbelieving - the future costs and consequences of failure to deal with AGW can the Author possibly think that future generations will benefit from this race-to-be-last approach.

This is how to face the greatest challenge of our times? Pathetic.
Posted by Ken Fabos, Thursday, 7 January 2010 5:00:28 PM
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Examinator,

Why do you paint such targets on your back?

"given the accepted theory of Capitalism" Capitalism is at best loosely defined, and while there are economic theories, there is as yet no accepted theory of capitalism.

"I gave clear historical evidence of the nature of business in that it's based on endless growth." Where? Some are many are not, and focus on niche markets etc.

"The bigger an organization/business the less efficient/productive it becomes. Economies of scale tend to have finite limits beyond which administration negates benefits." -- Absolute Rubbish. While this may be true for small service industies, for most industries the administration costs can be spread amongst more employees and cost savings from efficiencies of scale and the ability to negotiate down the input costs are enourmous. E.g, BHP, Rio, paper and other industries simply cannot exist on a minature scale.

The ACCC is to see that there is no unfair competition.

"I contend that as circumstances change so will the employers some "die" other's will naturally fill any unfilled holes in the market" - When disposable income drops, markets shrink. When the businesses die, there is no hole to fill. Business reacts to the market not vica versa, The ETS sucks billions from the markets, and disposeable income, the end result is inevitable.

For the past century growth has been in lock step with energy consumption. While the older economies are more efficient, and some further savings can made, growth is dependent on power. To reduce CO2 this must either come from expensive unreliable renewables or nuclear.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 7 January 2010 6:32:28 PM
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