Nobody really believes we are heading to Nazism etc,but we are losing our freedom of speech and I have the feeling our democracy as well. We have no say about most government decisions and changes to our constitution, they happen and we, the people, don't know until after the fact.

Again, I will mention Peter Spencer, up a pole on his land dying of starvation because he has lost everything. If he dies the government will sigh with relief because the worrisome buzzing this man has caused will no longer exist. Mr Spencer will become just another of the many farmers who have committed suicide because of government policy, being left with no future and no hope.

I remind everyone again this man has been unable to clear and produce anything on his land, the government made it part of the Kyoto Protocol for reducing greenhouse gases. The man was supposed to be compensated but received nothing. Every time the matter goes to court and it has on numerous occasions the judges throw it out, they won't hear it! It has ruined him and that is why he is up a pole dying.

It is bloody amazing how little media attention this has received, I wonder why? And Peter Garrett who was approached to look at the issue said "These matters should be handled in Court". Well that would be fine if they ever heard it in Court. That's what happens when you have useless twits in government portfolios who haven't got a clue about any issues.

DOES THIS MAN HAVE TO DIE TO MAKE HIS POINT? Is it a fair go in Australia that politicians, who are supposed to be making decisions to benefit the people of this country, can do this to an Australian?

“that human population is the problem, and that unlimited political power is the solution.”

Certainly human population is the problem but political power, unlimited or otherwise is not and never will be the solution.

The solution is, as it always has been, ultimately, the survival of the fittest.

Now, when you have burgeoning population numbers loosely divided between the educated people of the developed world (albeit with a few who have lost sight of the real issue) and ignorant third world folk, regardless of what you may think of as the morally righteous entitlement, one certain fact is manifest.

The fittest to continue the development of the human race are not the uneducated, ill skilled and ignorant.

As to political power – politicians have a lust for it. The most despicable are those who rally under the banner for “the common good” – collectivists / communists / socialists.

They have no real authority but demand to control the resources of everyone else.

They have no education but demand no one else should be educated.

They have infiltrated the environment movement not to “save the planet” but to impose their bastardry on everyone else using “the environment”: and “AGW” as a substitute for “the common good”

The “collectivists” are a pestilence upon the earth. Their politics have inflicted misery and death upon millions and their attempts at political control should be resisted at every turn, not because capitalist libertarianism is “fabulous” but simply because capitalist libertarianism leaves the “power” in the hands of multiple individuals, instead of collecting it all and placing it in the hands of usurpers like Lenin and Stalin.

collectivists have hi-jacked the AGW debate and the environmental movement and will use it to impose socialism by stealth

And as dear old Comrade Lenin said

“The goal of socialism is communism”…

Which, as this article illustrates, was not different to fascism.

Libertarian capitalism is not “perfect” but it sure beats the collectivists manifesto on every point

- especially through the limiting the centralization of economic / social / political power and control.

My apologies to all, particularly Chris C and King Hazza for my clumsy wording; I was working from an aged and rotting memory.
The actual quote should read:
“51 percent of the world’s 100 hundred (sic?) wealthiest bodies are corporations."
The source can be found here:
http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats#src23

Once again, Rouge compares apples to oranges; first he writes of 'survival' of the fittest; then (perhaps suddenly realising that accountants aren't actually particularly 'fit' to survive) changes to 'development' of the human race.
Come to think of it, accountants aren't much use there, either.
Another apt quote from the above source:

“The total wealth of the top 8.3 million people around the world “rose 8.2 percent to $30.8 trillion in 2004, giving them control of nearly a quarter of the world’s financial assets. In other words, about 0.13% of the world’s population controlled 25% of the world’s financial assets in 2004.

Who is it that "have no real authority but demand to control the resources of everyone else"?

Grim “Once again, Rouge compares apples to oranges; first he writes of 'survival' of the fittest; then (perhaps suddenly realising that accountants aren't actually particularly 'fit' to survive) changes to 'development' of the human race. Come to think of it, accountants aren't much use there, either.”

I leave the matter of “worthiness to survive” with the individuals who buy, “at arms length” my services and they are queuing up so on that parameter I doubt Grim is as likely to survive as I, regardless how he judges his own relative merit.

I figure the private sector, who generate the wealth of nations, prove their worth. The problem is the public sector- sucking off the wealth creators by application of taxes and levies and ETS schemes.

One thing is certain, development of the species will never be arrested by the accountants, who provide value to justify their income but by every publically employed parasite who does not.

Somehow I feel safe in speculating, Grim is a career public servant arrestor and likely has a net worth less than the value of my tie collection.

All that apart,

“In other words, about 0.13% of the world’s population controlled 25% of the world’s financial assets in 2004.”

And if you gave out equal shares to everyone, in 7 years that proportion would again hold true.

The point is people are not all equal, some are gifted and suited to achieve and survive (the fittest)

Whereas others are not (often those who find succor in the politics of small minded envy).

And pontificating by Grim or the other followers of collectivism will never change that

Hence history is littered with the repeated failures of their collectivist political ideology, by any name, from kibbutz to socialism and communism or fascism.

Central control of everything is the recipe for collective disaster Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot style

And David Spencer is still up a pole starving to death because the governments both state and federal (Howard and Rudd plus the NSW State government)took his life's work to compensate for the Kyoto agreement CO2 protocol, and will, if they can and it looks like they will, take his land away with no compensation. Prime real estate in the highlands.

We are not heading towards fascism? The politicians in this country are making their own rules and signing agreements we have no access to or information about. They change the constitution to suit themselves anyone who doubts this is a fool.

Go ask anyone interested in the constitution and constitutional law and ask how many times it has been changed without the knowledge of the people.

Politicians are elected to look after the people NOT to tell the people what to do and not to use taxes in whatever way their party wishes. We do not elect them for that, they are only caretakers.

Question time in parliament is nothing but an exercise in stupidity and anyone who has watched it would know these people are all coming close to idiocy. It's fascicle, not even the worst comedy compares to question time in our parliament. It makes me cringe with embarrassment.

Constitutionally we should have referendums but we don't....why? Because they cost too much so governments don't have referendums, they call their decisions mandates on election.

They should not, by law, change the constitution but they do because they can without our knowledge and if that is not heading towards fascism then we might already be there.

<< And David Spencer is still up a pole starving to death because the governments both state and federal (Howard and Rudd plus the NSW State government)took his life's work to compensate for the Kyoto agreement CO2 protocol, and will, if they can and it looks like they will, take his land away with no compensation. Prime real estate in the highlands. >>

Garbage. Spencer can come down any time he likes and have a feed.

As far as his "life's work" goes, he spent nearly 30 of the last 40 years amassing his wealth by exploiting Papua New Guineans and playing politics in the PNG highlands. He's no battling farmer.

He should come down from his perch, sell his "prime real estate" and retire instead of behaving like a narcissistic goose. Nobody's stolen anything from him - rather, he needs to face the reality that he now lives somewhere where he can't do what he likes and has to obey the law like everybody else.