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Nuclear power: don't 'minchin' the waste : Comments

By Jim Green, published 18/12/2009

Will the Liberal Party blow itself up over nuclear power?

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Using nuclear power is not going to lead to war (Mark Diesendorf). There are enough nuclear weapons in the world to wipe the lot of us right now. And, climate-change is not much of a threat either, if we learn to adapt to it instead of wasting time and money on rubbish like the Copenhagen Conference and saying that we should hand out billions of dollars to backward countries, believing that will somehow alter climate change.

Why Jim Green is banging on about the Opposition in relation to nuclear power is anyone’s guess. He should be asking why the Rudd Government continues to think it’s OK to export uranium, but it is not OK for Australia to have uranium-powered electricity.

Uranium is one of the two things which really make Rudd look like an idiot when he utters anything about climate change. The other is his plans for a ‘big Australia’.

If greenhouses gases were really to blame for climate change, nuclear power would pretty much remove the lot. If immigration was stopped altogether, that would also help – based on the beliefs Rudd has accepted from the global warming shonks.

If we have to drop coal, which is doubtful to all but the warming hysterics, then the only option is nuclear. Wind (producing about 25% of the time only) and solar are just feel-good playthings which will never produce enough power to be of any practical use.

As for waste storage: we can store our own, and other countries can do whatever they have been doing with their nuclear waste for years.
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 18 December 2009 11:27:13 AM
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Topic? what topic? who needs a topic to show political thin skin and have a rave.

Just to refresh your memories the topic was about the split in the Liberal Party over the Nuke power industry and it's waste.

I live for the day some of you actually comment on the topic, any topic.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 18 December 2009 11:54:43 AM
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Nuclear promoters have always talked up the technology that is 'just around the corner' for fast breeder reactors that use fuel more efficiently and produce less waste. Then there are always the promises of 'safe' disposal, again just around the corner, out of sight.

However, decades later Uncle Sam is so burdened with hugely expensive nuke waste disposal problems at home that he wants those colonial drongos of Liberals to volunteer Oz as the cheap dump for US waste. The Liberal Party is the club of the same ingratiating colonial drongos that allowed the Brits to use Australia as a testing ground for atomic bombs and as the dump for the waste which was never properly cleaned up, remaining in shallow graves that the wind and animals disturb.

If there was any money in waste, now or in the future and if it was so easy to 'bank' the waste, does anyone really believe that the Yanks or Brits would be so keen to get rid of it anywhere, except in their backyards?

Again, if fast breeder reactors that used recycled waste were available now or soon, does anyone really believe that Uncle Sam and others would be getting rid of waste that was 'easily' recyclable?

Fast breeder reactors might be the draw card but as usual it is the old bait and switch that Arthur Daley (The Minder TV series) would have been proud of because it is the old technology that Australia would be getting. Has to be, because the product being sold doesn't even exist.

I suppose the Liberals haven't given up on getting an Oz nuclear bomb either, despite the fact that such weapons are useless, inviting catastrophic retaliation and being entirely ineffective against boatloads of colonising 'refugees' landing on our shores.
Posted by Cornflower, Friday, 18 December 2009 12:30:08 PM
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Examinator - of course we all aspire to making you happy, not.

So what was your comment on the article oh wise one?

"I live for the day some of you actually comment on the topic" you could try that mate, instead of being the usual sanctimonious whining smart ass.

The Liberal Party under Tony Abbot and Nick Minchen is scaring the crap out of the non conservatives, why is that?

Under the current regime, the ALP actually face an opposition and even the MSM know they can't just bully them anymore the way they did under 2 previous leaders.

It's fun to watch you all run around like headless chooks in a panic, and they are not in government.

mikk, what's the problem with Nuclear Reactors where Coal Fired ppwer plants are now? In time, they wil get smaller, and could then be in the suburbs. The big scare campaign always leads out with, "name the electorate the Nuc plants will be in", so as to kill debate.

You have to get over the fact that Coal plants will go, the eco whackos will see to that - but we need power to run desal plants for the most basic requrement, water, because we don't build dams anymore.

Cornflower, I hear you, and the reason we don't get the new Nuclear technology is the eco types and Caldicotts have killed it - or it would be there. Give it a chance, as we will have to, and it will evolve.
Posted by odo, Friday, 18 December 2009 1:02:26 PM
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<<what's the problem with Nuclear Reactors where Coal Fired power plants are now?>>

I think the main problem is that the locals would not want them there and the only way to do it would be to ignore their wishes and force them to accept something against their will. Something potentially very dangerous. Not very democratic is it?

You cant ignore the risk analysis that says, while nuke reactors accidents are rare the consequences are catastrophic. Its a simple equation involving how likely/unlikely something is to happen and how bad the consequences would be if it did. In all scenarios it comes out unacceptable to most people in regards to nuclear power. The risks of disaster and massive loss of life are in no way comparable to coal fired power plants and to attempt to equate them is dishonest and misleading.

Funny how all climate scientists are hoaxing, corrupt socialists, while nuclear scientists are perfect even when it comes to predicting the future.
Posted by mikk, Friday, 18 December 2009 1:50:00 PM
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What's the lead time between the proposal for a nuclear power plant and the production of electricity--after years of "not-in-my-back-yard" campaigns,re-design,law suits and changes of government(all factored into the price per kilowatt)? 20 years? 25 years? Fusion power will probably be practical before the first nuclear plant is in operation in Oz.
Posted by mac, Friday, 18 December 2009 1:58:10 PM
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