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Clean future in nuclear power : Comments

By Barry Brook and Martin Nicholson, published 16/12/2009

We have the means to fix the climate and energy crises by dealing with the objections to nuclear power.

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Oh please old zygote - stop smokin the stuff.

<< Given that this article was by journalists for a newspaper ... >>

It really is a problem, people.

Homo saps believe what they want to believe ... facts have nothing to do with it.

If this is typical, we (as a species) are stuffed - nuff said.
Posted by Q&A, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 10:30:18 PM
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Food for thought:

"China’s civilian nuclear power industry — with 11 reactors operating and construction starting on as many as an additional 10 each year — is not known to have had a serious accident in 15 years of large-scale electricity production."

As far as fuel supply is concerned, there is sufficient uranium at higher prices for millenia, and when the thorium reactors become comercial, the low cost of thorium might even make uranium redundant.

By 2050 either Australia will have nuclear power, or will remain the world's worst polluter.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 17 December 2009 8:12:52 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister: Just wishing it will not make it so. If you care to follow reasoned discussions carefully, then you might look at Jan Willem Storm van Leeuwen's website "Nuclear power – the energy balance" February 2008, http://www.stormsmith.nl/. In summary, you rapidly get into a situation of negative energy returns as the price of uranium increases (the price is NOT disconnected from the energy required to extract it)

Can you provide some evidence that thorium and other "advanced" reactors will be ready for commercial use before 2050? Facts, please, not just bold assertions- this subject is too important for wishful thinking to prevail.
Posted by Jedimaster, Thursday, 17 December 2009 8:28:57 AM
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old zygote .. Barry Brook is one of Australia's most senior highly respected scientists, please Google him, or follow the link under the article - you might escape looking foolish next time you call someone a journalist who is anything but. I can't believe someone posts like that and in their post proves they have no idea what's going on.

The only way we can continue to grow as a country and provide our children with the wealth they should inherit, and to satisfy the eco religion sweeping the world, though much of it is because money is attached (see COP15), is to go Nuclear.

We need to put money into research and develop a Nuclear power industry - we also need it to power all the desalination plants since the eco-lites will not let us build dams.

One day perhaps some reason will come to the eco-lites that you can't have everything .. if you cut back enough we may be without medicines for instance, and our children will suffer.

We need some restraint in the eco wars, if we just give way to everything they want, we will be back in the caves.
Posted by odo, Thursday, 17 December 2009 2:22:37 PM
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Odo, when you say “The only way we can continue to grow as a country and provide our children with the wealth they should inherit” do you mean that we must, ever into the future, continue expanding our economy?

If so, I appeal to you to take a bit more notice of some fundamental issues in Australia: for example, water sufficiency for urban and agricultural use; and the expanding pressure being placed upon them by our numbers. With present growth rate there will be an extra million in three years time.

Barry Brook is indeed a highly respected scientist. So are those working in the various renewables field. He does his stature no favours by denigrating the work of his colleagues of at least equal stature, and with greater expertise than his own in these areas.
Posted by colinsett, Thursday, 17 December 2009 8:14:37 PM
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colinsett

Where in the article did Barry Brook denigrate the work of his colleagues?
Posted by Q&A, Thursday, 17 December 2009 8:27:57 PM
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