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When the truth bows to the national interest ... : Comments

By Peter Vintila, published 11/12/2009

While climate science is subjected to minute scrutiny, liberal economics enjoys unlimited license to deflect, derail and distort.

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Arjay,

What cooling? "climategate"? (read more science) What about the topic not the obfuscation. Having sat through 10 (and continuing)uni lectures recently on the AGW *science*, I now have a better understanding of why it's irrefutable.

SM,
Standard Political obfuscation, don't like the topic being discussed, change it one you like? The topic was about the the truth V the time bomb *economics*, not Nuclear power. *I'd love to see your defense of economics not being based on a fallacy i.e. 'magic pudding' principal.*

I'd also be fascinated to hear MM tell us what is wrong with the *science*, so much so, that he hasn't even sought the relevant advice from the scientists involved! (his admission on 'late line.) How then his is informed opinion?. BTW I've never heard him offer a cogent defense of the economics it's self rather a one sided sizzle. And this is the alternative PM (in God we trust...isn't that the US motto and boy it works well for them...not)
Posted by examinator, Sunday, 13 December 2009 9:45:53 AM
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Gee, a brainwashed examinator is a really scary prospect.

Run everybody.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 14 December 2009 5:38:06 PM
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The "Unfortunate Truth" on an Emissions Trading Scheme is that the Carbon Credits created can only be traded in the international financial markets. The very same market,operated by Brokers,Hedge Funds and Futures Traders who recently made food and oil unafordable, prior to sending the world broke using massive amounts of borrowed money to trade "Financial Instruments". Are we really now proposing to give these same people the power to price our power?For mine its "tell em there dreamin".
Posted by SAMANTHA, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 10:33:12 AM
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Examinator,

I'm not changing the subject. As the article is on the economics of climate change, and until such time as renewable power can provide a reasonably priced base load, energy reduction targets for 2050 are not possible without a massive reduction in consumption or a considerable nuclear programme.

Until the effects of climate change mitigation start to really bite, nuclear will be the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about.

I know that most greenies would like to talk about anything but nuclear, but sooner or later it will become a reality.

France with its nuclear programme is the only country in the world to have lower emissions today than in 1979 with a growing economy.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:26:46 AM
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Hasbeen

I started to run two years ago. I've hedged my bets though. I live on a yacht and if the worst comes to the worst can always moor at my kids place and to their first floor balcony.
Posted by keith, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 1:05:04 PM
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